Is it quicker to walk from Earl's Court to Kensington Olympia or get
the District Line to West Brompton and London Overground to Olympia?
Or even walk from Olympia to West Brompton and overground from there?
I'm not sure how often overground trains go but I think West Brompton
is a lot closer to Earl's Court than Olympia

Jack Taylor wrote:
Steve M wrote:
Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the
network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia.
There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700
to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run
during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off
peak, the numbers are lower.

Sorry - but that doesn't square with my observations on many afternoons, on
non-exhibition days, when there is a constant stream of (mainly) business
passengers feeding into both LUL and Overground services. I'd estimate at
least double those figures from about 15:30 onwards. I can't speak for the
morning peak, as I've never used it that early, apart from on Saturdays,
when I've experienced the kind of numbers that you suggest.



Fair enough, but those are the official 2006 figures (which now seem to
be available to the public on the TfL website). Perhaps during the off
peak, all the trains between 1000 and 1500 are empty, with everyone
piling on between 1500 and 1600? Saturday numbers show as 921 across
the whole traffic day.

Cheers

Steve M

MaxB wrote:
On 13 Mar, 21:08, Steve M wrote:
Jack Taylor wrote:
wrote:
I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was
advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than
waiting for the next train.
Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived?
No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it.
Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the
network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There
are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000)
which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this
period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the
numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any
others?

Cheers

Steve M

You are referring to the Overground - the OP was talking about the
tube, and of the trains I observed (but didn't count) I would reckon
up to 200 on several trains, maybe a 1000 in total between 0700 and
1000. Incidentally, we counted over 400 entries and exits just on the
southbound platform.

MaxB

Nope, I'm referring to London Underground District Line services, and
the figures are LU's own. But I suppose those are subject to the usual
caveats about data collection, surveys, people touching in and out etc.
Is Kenny O gated?

Cheers

Steve M

In article ,
(Steve M) wrote:

Jack Taylor wrote:
wrote:
I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was
advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker
than waiting for the next train.

Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived?

No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it.

Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on
the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as
Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM
peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains
which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per
carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell
and Chesham are lower... any others?

Yes, but how much exhibition traffic is at 0700 to 1000? What are the
evening figures, for example?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Steve M) wrote:

Jack Taylor wrote:
wrote:
I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was
advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker
than waiting for the next train.

Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived?
No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it.
Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on
the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as
Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM
peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains
which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per
carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell
and Chesham are lower... any others?

Yes, but how much exhibition traffic is at 0700 to 1000? What are the
evening figures, for example?


PM Peak = 397 entries, 384 exits. Evening (1900 to 2200) is 94 and 240!

Cheers

Steve

On 14 Mar, 01:59, Steve M wrote:
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Steve M) wrote:

Jack Taylor wrote:
wrote:
I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was
advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker
than waiting for the next train.

Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived?
No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it.
Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on
the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as
Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM
peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains
which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per
carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell
and Chesham are lower... any others?

Yes, but how much exhibition traffic is at 0700 to 1000? What are the
evening figures, for example?

PM Peak = 397 entries, 384 exits. Evening (1900 to 2200) is 94 and 240!

Cheers

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I think, as has been suggested earlier, that use of the station has
grown considerably in the last few years so the 2005/6 figures may be
right, but are now out of date.

No, Kenny O has some gates but is open most of the time; there is
nothing on the east side, indeed the single Oyster reader, tucked away
by the overbridge is easy to miss, perhaps to help catch people out
and hope they get charged the maximum! Incidentally, is this the
reason why Oyster readers are so small and painted an unobtrusive
grey? Given how important they are to most travellers, they should be
fluorescent orange!

I walked from Eearls Court to KO on Tuesday morning, it took 14
minutes at a steady pace - crossing the main roads can slow you down
however. It could be quicker to go to West Brompton and back - say 6
minutes if the connections are right - but it would depend on good
luck or good timing.

MaxB

On 14 Mar, 00:10, Sophie wrote:
Is it quicker to walk from Earl's Court to Kensington Olympia or get
the District Line to West Brompton and London Overground to Olympia?
Or even walk from Olympia to West Brompton and overground from there?
I'm not sure how often overground trains go but I think West Brompton
is a lot closer to Earl's Court than Olympia



West Brompton and Earls Court are practically two ends of the same
building. Olympia is a fair walk, the closest stations being Shepherds
Bush (C), West Kensington, High Street Kensington. Earls Court I
reckon is a little further than those.

On Mar 13, 9:08 pm, Steve M wrote:
period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the
numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any
others?

Appaerently Mill Hill East on the northern used to be quiet but now
they've built a socking great housing estate on the site of the old
gasworks right next to it I suspect its a lot busier these days those
thats just a guess on my part as I haven't used it in 2 years.

B2003

On 14 Mar, 00:10, Sophie wrote:
Is it quicker to walk from Earl's Court to Kensington Olympia or get
the District Line to West Brompton and London Overground to Olympia?
Or even walk from Olympia to West Brompton and overground from there?
I'm not sure how often overground trains go but I think West Brompton
is a lot closer to Earl's Court than Olympia


Woah, this is all sounding very complicated - any able bodied person
can (and dare I suggest should!) walk it no problem at all!

This street map shows just how close everything is:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...&y=178696&ar=N

In the bottom right hand corner of the map you can just see West
Brompton station - click on the 'Large Map' link to show a wider area.
Anyone arriving at West Brompton on a mainline train and heading for
Earls Court merely has to exit the station and the Earls Court
exhibition hall is immediately visible opposite - one definitely does
not need to take the District Line from West Brompton to Earls Court
station!

A small pocket A-Z map is an incredibly useful accessory for both
visitor and Londoner alike.

On 13 Mar, 21:08, Steve M wrote:
Jack Taylor wrote:
wrote:
I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was
advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than
waiting for the next train.

Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived?

No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it.

Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the
network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There
are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000)
which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this
period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the
numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any
others?

Cheers

Steve M

What about people changing there and so not entering or exiting on
foot?