Changing trains at Finsbury Park the other day, I needed to get from
one northbound island to the other, which are separated by only a
single track. For more than one moment I looked at it and thought "I
could jump that"*. The platforms are plenty wide enough to get a good
run up. So:

i) Would this be trespassing on a railway?
ii) Has anyone done this or seen it done?

(* I wimped out and traipsed through the subway)

U

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On Mar 16, 8:02*pm, Mr Thant
wrote:
Changing trains at Finsbury Park the other day, I needed to get from
one northbound island to the other, which are separated by only a
single track. For more than one moment I looked at it and thought "I
could jump that"*. The platforms are plenty wide enough to get a good
run up. So:

i) Would this be trespassing on a railway?
ii) Has anyone done this or seen it done?

(* I wimped out and traipsed through the subway)

U

--http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London

I doubt if it could be construed as trespassing, but it could
definitely be construed as endangering the safe operation of the
railway and its staff and passengers (if you hit someone on landing,
for example). I would strongly urge against it - the gap is about 10
feet or 3 metres, which is a fairly long jump.

On Mar 16, 9:02*pm, Mr Thant
wrote:
Changing trains at Finsbury Park the other day, I needed to get from
one northbound island to the other, which are separated by only a
single track. For more than one moment I looked at it and thought "I
could jump that"*. The platforms are plenty wide enough to get a good
run up. So:

i) Would this be trespassing on a railway?
ii) Has anyone done this or seen it done?

(* I wimped out and traipsed through the subway)

U

--http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London

ii) Haven't seen it done in the UK, but on the continent, yes, where
the platforms are lower. There are often signs telling people not to
do it.

"Mr Thant" wrote in message
...
Changing trains at Finsbury Park the other day, I needed to get from
one northbound island to the other, which are separated by only a
single track. For more than one moment I looked at it and thought "I
could jump that"*. The platforms are plenty wide enough to get a good
run up. So:

i) Would this be trespassing on a railway?
ii) Has anyone done this or seen it done?

Years ago the loop platforms at Sevenoaks had platforms both sides, and were
used to terminate suburban trains. Fast trains to and from the Coast used
the through lines in teh centre. So passengers used to go through the
suburban trains instead of crossing by the bridge. But even if a convenient
train stopped in the middle track at Finsbury Park, I don't suppose the
doors are opened both sides so that you can get through it.

Peter

On 16 Mar, 21:08, "Peter Masson" wrote:

"Mr Thant" wrote:

Changing trains at Finsbury Park the other day, I needed to get from
one northbound island to the other, which are separated by only a
single track. For more than one moment I looked at it and thought "I
could jump that"*. The platforms are plenty wide enough to get a good
run up. So:

i) Would this be trespassing on a railway?
ii) Has anyone done this or seen it done?

Years ago the loop platforms at Sevenoaks had platforms both sides, and were
used to terminate suburban trains. Fast trains to and from the Coast used
the through lines in the centre. So passengers used to go through the
suburban trains instead of crossing by the bridge. But even if a convenient
train stopped in the middle track at Finsbury Park, I don't suppose the
doors are opened both sides so that you can get through it.


No, they ain't. I suppose one would have to look back to the days of
slam doors on the Great Northern route for the last time such
opportunities arose.

The DLR affords opportunities for such platform hopping antics at
Canary Wharf, where passengers on the sidemost platforms could dash
through a train to reach the island platforms and hence the train on
the centre road. Not really one to try at rush hour, given the swarm
of humanity that would block one's way!

At Barking District line trains open their doors to platforms on both
sides - my memory is failing me here but I think this is for eastbound
trains only (ICBW). I can't picture the platform layout accurately so
I can't work out whether the opportunity to use a District line train
as a literal makeshift bridge would be of benefit to any passengers in
a rush.

The upcoming arrangement at Stratford for the westbound Central line
will mean the doors will open on both sides, but that only really gets
one onto the island platform for westbound mainline trains to
Liverpool St only. Most passengers wanting these will likely approach
said platform via the stairs.

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:43:48 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:




At Barking District line trains open their doors to platforms on both
sides - my memory is failing me here but I think this is for eastbound
trains only (ICBW).
This is correct. WB District line trains stop on one side of the Up
island platform allowing cross-platform interchange with Up c2c
services. On the other side of the WB District line is the Down Grays
via Rainham line, then the island platform, then the Up Grays line.
(not sure of correct nomenclature but YKWIM).

I can't picture the platform layout accurately so
I can't work out whether the opportunity to use a District line train
as a literal makeshift bridge would be of benefit to any passengers in
a rush.

Only if you got off a terminating GOBLIN service in p.1 and wanted a
Shoebury/Southend-bound c2c service from p.4. You could indeed then
use a District train as a bridge. I suppose you could also do this in
reverse, i.e. going from, say, West Ham to Walthamstow QR via Barking,
but this seems less likely.

--
Ken

On 17 Mar, 00:20, Ken wrote:

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:43:48 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:

At Barking District line trains open their doors to platforms on both
sides - my memory is failing me here but I think this is for eastbound
trains only (ICBW).

This is correct. WB District line trains stop on one side of the Up
island platform allowing cross-platform interchange with Up c2c
services. On the other side of the WB District line is the Down Grays
via Rainham line, then the island platform, then the Up Grays line.
(not sure of correct nomenclature but YKWIM).


Are you sure?

IIRC it's the eastbound District Line that stops on one side of the
Down island platform. And on the other side of the EB District Line
is the GOBLin island. There's no cross-platform interchange between
the District and the Grays via Rainham line at all.

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:36:12 -0700 (PDT), solar penguin
wrote:

On 17 Mar, 00:20, Ken wrote:

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:43:48 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:

At Barking District line trains open their doors to platforms on both
sides - my memory is failing me here but I think this is for eastbound
trains only (ICBW).

This is correct. WB District line trains stop on one side of the Up
island platform allowing cross-platform interchange with Up c2c
services. On the other side of the WB District line is the Down Grays
via Rainham line, then the island platform, then the Up Grays line.
(not sure of correct nomenclature but YKWIM).


Are you sure?

IIRC it's the eastbound District Line that stops on one side of the
Down island platform. And on the other side of the EB District Line
is the GOBLin island. There's no cross-platform interchange between
the District and the Grays via Rainham line at all.

No, you misunderstand me. I meant that on the other side of the WB
district is the *track* of the Down Grays line, not the platform.

Platforms at Barking are (IIRC)
1: GOBLIN terminating bay
2: EB District line (faces on both sides)
3: EB Bay (London end of 2 (South side)
4: Down c2c main
5: Up c2c main
6: WB District
7: Down Rainham
8: Up Rainham

--
Ken
--
Ken

Mizter T wrote:
The upcoming arrangement at Stratford for the westbound Central line
will mean the doors will open on both sides, but that only really gets
one onto the island platform for westbound mainline trains to
Liverpool St only. Most passengers wanting these will likely approach
said platform via the stairs.

But if you arrive from, say Ilford, and want the DLR or the future
overbridge to the shopping centre and the Olympic site/Northern
Ticket Hall, stepping through a Central Line train will save you an
unnecessary trip down to ground level.

U

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http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London

On 17 Mar, 00:32, Mr Thant
wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
The upcoming arrangement at Stratford for the westbound Central line
will mean the doors will open on both sides, but that only really gets
one onto the island platform for westbound mainline trains to
Liverpool St only. Most passengers wanting these will likely approach
said platform via the stairs.

But if you arrive from, say Ilford, and want the DLR or the future
overbridge to the shopping centre and the Olympic site/Northern
Ticket Hall, stepping through a Central Line train will save you an
unnecessary trip down to ground level.


Good point, I'd managed to completely overlook that. It'll be
interesting to see how this pans out, there must be concerns about the
potential for extended dwell times at Stratford and knock-on delays.
Though anyone who tries this at rush hour won't be on to a winner
though - they'll likely be stuck on a train to Mile End instead!