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Default Crossrail could bankrupt London - says Ken Livingstone

On 24 Mar, 20:15, Adrian wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:52 pm, Stimpy wrote:

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:35:40 +0000, Adrian wrote


To bring this back on topc: Whatever the cost, Crossrail is essential.


*Whatever* the cost??


Wouldn't you like to actually derive some benefit from those
extortionately high UK taxes?


The people Crossrail is supposed to benefit - the international
financial community
- by and large pay bugger all in taxes.

Ian
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On Mar 24, 3:26*pm, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 24 Mar, 20:15, Adrian wrote:

On Mar 24, 12:52 pm, Stimpy wrote:


On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:35:40 +0000, Adrian wrote


To bring this back on topc: Whatever the cost, Crossrail is essential.


*Whatever* the cost??


Wouldn't you like to actually derive some benefit from those
extortionately high UK taxes?


The people Crossrail is supposed to benefit - the international
financial community
- by and large pay bugger all in taxes.

Ian


Their employees pay considerable taxes. And, many of them commute.
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Default Crossrail could bankrupt London - says Ken Livingstone

In message
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Adrian writes
On Mar 24, 3:26*pm, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 24 Mar, 20:15, Adrian wrote:

On Mar 24, 12:52 pm, Stimpy wrote:


On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:35:40 +0000, Adrian wrote


To bring this back on topc: Whatever the cost, Crossrail is essential.


*Whatever* the cost??


Wouldn't you like to actually derive some benefit from those
extortionately high UK taxes?


The people Crossrail is supposed to benefit - the international
financial community
- by and large pay bugger all in taxes.

Ian


Their employees pay considerable taxes. And, many of them commute.


And if those employees lost their jobs, then that would take several
billion pounds out of the local economy of the south-east and, by
extension, Britain.
--
Jane
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http://www.yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk/railway/railway.html

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Am Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:26:35 UTC, schrieb The Real Doctor
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The people Crossrail is supposed to benefit - the international
financial community


I think that London Crossrail will benefit much more people than
just the "financial community".

It will be a faster way to get _thru_ London, instead of just _into_
London.


Cheers,
L.W.


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On 25 Mar, 08:47, "Lüko Willms" wrote:
Am Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:26:35 UTC, schrieb The Real Doctor
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The people Crossrail is supposed to benefit - the international
financial community


I think that London Crossrail will benefit much more people than
just the "financial community".

It will be a faster way to get _thru_ London, instead of just _into_
London.


Well, it would be if it was designed to take long distance trains. But
it's not - just stoppers from Maidenhead to Shenfield. Long distance
travellers (Bristol - Norwich?) wanting to travel across London will
still have to change twice, just as now.

Ian


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It will be a faster way to get _thru_ London, instead of just _into_
London.

Cheers,
L.W.

Who exactly needs to go through london that quickly, everyone in kent/
france can already get through via CTRL/St Pancras - and its only a
couple of stops round the tube if they want to get to paddington/
euston [and vice versa]. So that only leave the people in Anglia, but
north & central Anglia can access kings cross, so that's really just
the people in essex, which is hardly significant in the scale of cross-
london travel.
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To bring this back on topc: Whatever the cost, Crossrail is essential.

Adrian


Even if its 5 times more expensive than 5 new tube lines through
central london?
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At 12:05:43 on Tue, 25 Mar 2008 Ar opined:-

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:35:40 -0700, Adrian wrote:

A much more common mistake is the misuse of the word "prestigious".

To bring this back on topc: Whatever the cost, Crossrail is essential.


The London 2012 Olympics will cost £18bn, is that essential? Is that any
less bankrupting then Crossrail?


It's not often recognised that London suffered two devastating blows on
successive days in July 2005. On the 7th there was the tube bombings.
But the day before London had imposed on it the 2012 Olympics.
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On 25 Mar, 12:56, thoss wrote:

At 12:05:43 on Tue, 25 Mar 2008 Ar opined:-

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:35:40 -0700, Adrian wrote:


A much more common mistake is the misuse of the word "prestigious".


To bring this back on topc: Whatever the cost, Crossrail is essential.


The London 2012 Olympics will cost £18bn, is that essential? Is that any
less bankrupting then Crossrail?


It's not often recognised that London suffered two devastating blows on
successive days in July 2005. On the 7th there was the tube bombings.
But the day before London had imposed on it the 2012 Olympics.
--
Thoss


Oh you must be so pleased with yourself, what with your being ever so
witty...
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Ar wrote:
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:35:40 -0700, Adrian wrote:

A much more common mistake is the misuse of the word "prestigious".

To bring this back on topc: Whatever the cost, Crossrail is essential.


The London 2012 Olympics will cost £18bn, is that essential? Is that any
less bankrupting then Crossrail?


An utter waste of money.


Red Ken Livingstone lives in another planet, or should I say, inside a
bottle of Whisky?!


Many wish he did.


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