wrote:
Greetings all.
My father got his free Local Authority bus pass through the post just
the other day. Previously it was only valid on local buses in our
district but I hear that is will now be valid on all local buses
throughout England. Even though he lives in Bucks does this mean his
pass will be valid on London ( TFL) buses as well ?

Yes, from 1st April. Only on buses, though, not on the Underground, DLR,
Trams etc.

--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

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(Richard J.) wrote:

wrote:
Greetings all.
My father got his free Local Authority bus pass through the post just
the other day. Previously it was only valid on local buses in our
district but I hear that is will now be valid on all local buses
throughout England. Even though he lives in Bucks does this mean his
pass will be valid on London ( TFL) buses as well ?

Yes, from 1st April. Only on buses, though, not on the
Underground, DLR, Trams etc.

Are you sure about trams? They use Bus Zones.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message .uk, Colin
Rosenstiel writes
In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

wrote:
Greetings all.
My father got his free Local Authority bus pass through the post just
the other day. Previously it was only valid on local buses in our
district but I hear that is will now be valid on all local buses
throughout England. Even though he lives in Bucks does this mean his
pass will be valid on London ( TFL) buses as well ?

Yes, from 1st April. Only on buses, though, not on the
Underground, DLR, Trams etc.

Are you sure about trams? They use Bus Zones.

Yes, the passes are only obliged to be accepted on buses and not on
other services.

However, when Mum's arrived a couple of weeks ago the (Centro) paperwork
accompanying it said in response to a Q&A about availability on trams
and Metro services elsewhere that it *might * be made available and to
"check locally".

Trams like Croydon, Midland Metro, Manchester Metrolink, T&W Metro and
so on seem unlikely to me to accept them. The one place I thought
*might* bend that rule would be Blackpool, where the tram is (forgive me
for this!) more of a "bus on rails". But it remains to be seen.

Anyway, I was surprised about the Centro answer; I thought it would be
a blanket "no".
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

Ian Jelf wrote:

Trams like Croydon, Midland Metro, Manchester Metrolink, T&W Metro and
so on seem unlikely to me to accept them.


In Greater Manchester, the over-60s travel pass is certainly accepted on
Metrolink, as well as on trains within the GMPTE area.

--

Stephen

Did anybody order an apocalypse?

Stephen Farrow wrote:
Ian Jelf wrote:

Trams like Croydon, Midland Metro, Manchester Metrolink, T&W Metro
and so on seem unlikely to me to accept them.


In Greater Manchester, the over-60s travel pass is certainly accepted
on Metrolink, as well as on trains within the GMPTE area.

Yes, but surely that's only for Greater Manchester over-60s? Just like the
Freedom Pass in London. The issue we were discussing was whether non-local
over-60s can get free travel on anything other than buses. The answer seems
to be no.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

"Richard J." wrote in message
.. .
Stephen Farrow wrote:
Ian Jelf wrote:

Trams like Croydon, Midland Metro, Manchester Metrolink, T&W Metro
and so on seem unlikely to me to accept them.


In Greater Manchester, the over-60s travel pass is certainly accepted
on Metrolink, as well as on trains within the GMPTE area.

Yes, but surely that's only for Greater Manchester over-60s? Just like
the Freedom Pass in London. The issue we were discussing was whether
non-local over-60s can get free travel on anything other than buses. The
answer seems to be no.

In fact, the OP's concern was simply whether or not 'throughout England'
included London...

Paul S

In message , Stephen Farrow
writes
Ian Jelf wrote:

Trams like Croydon, Midland Metro, Manchester Metrolink, T&W Metro
and so on seem unlikely to me to accept them.


In Greater Manchester, the over-60s travel pass is certainly accepted
on Metrolink, as well as on trains within the GMPTE area.

Yes but only for Great Manchester residents. Similarly West Midlands
O60s get Midland Metro and West Midlands Local Rail, ditto Merseyside,
South and West Yorkshire, etc. and so on give benefits beyond bus only
travel to their O60s. Those benefits don't (generally) extend beyond
the resident's own county, though.

Does any shire county offer O60s free rail travel?

--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

In article ,
(Ian Jelf) wrote:

In message , Stephen Farrow
writes
Ian Jelf wrote:

Trams like Croydon, Midland Metro, Manchester Metrolink, T&W Metro
and so on seem unlikely to me to accept them.


In Greater Manchester, the over-60s travel pass is certainly accepted
on Metrolink, as well as on trains within the GMPTE area.

Yes but only for Great Manchester residents. Similarly West
Midlands O60s get Midland Metro and West Midlands Local Rail, ditto
Merseyside, South and West Yorkshire, etc. and so on give benefits
beyond bus only travel to their O60s. Those benefits don't
(generally) extend beyond the resident's own county, though.

Does any shire county offer O60s free rail travel?

There was a bit in North Wales, wasn't there?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message .uk, Colin
Rosenstiel writes
In article ,
(Ian Jelf) wrote:

In message , Stephen Farrow
writes
Ian Jelf wrote:

Trams like Croydon, Midland Metro, Manchester Metrolink, T&W Metro
and so on seem unlikely to me to accept them.


In Greater Manchester, the over-60s travel pass is certainly accepted
on Metrolink, as well as on trains within the GMPTE area.

Yes but only for Great Manchester residents. Similarly West
Midlands O60s get Midland Metro and West Midlands Local Rail, ditto
Merseyside, South and West Yorkshire, etc. and so on give benefits
beyond bus only travel to their O60s. Those benefits don't
(generally) extend beyond the resident's own county, though.

Does any shire county offer O60s free rail travel?

There was a bit in North Wales, wasn't there?

Wales might well do (being now a Wales-wide system), I'm not sure.

Although I didn't make it clear in the question, I was posing the
question regarding England, as that's where the new pass arrangements
are about to come into force.

--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
...
In message , Stephen Farrow
writes
Ian Jelf wrote:

Trams like Croydon, Midland Metro, Manchester Metrolink, T&W Metro and
so on seem unlikely to me to accept them.


In Greater Manchester, the over-60s travel pass is certainly accepted on
Metrolink, as well as on trains within the GMPTE area.

Yes but only for Great Manchester residents. Similarly West Midlands
O60s get Midland Metro and West Midlands Local Rail, ditto Merseyside,
South and West Yorkshire, etc. and so on give benefits beyond bus only
travel to their O60s. Those benefits don't (generally) extend beyond the
resident's own county, though.

Does any shire county offer O60s free rail travel?


Interesting question Ian, down here in south Hampshire what limited 'local
rail network' there is would have to be a joint effort between Hants CC,
Portsmouth, and Southampton, as the latter are unitary authorities. I
suspect any proposal will be swiftly filed under 'too difficult'...

Paul S