On 8 Apr, 10:03, Mr Thant
wrote:
On 8 Apr, 09:53, wrote:

Good idea, but would need to walk out the gates and back in again as
no Oyster readers on or between the platforms . . . All seems a bit
daft!

You might not have noticed, but there is a barriered exit about
halfway along the corridor between the platforms *where it'd be very
easy to do this. On the right coming from the NLL. You might get a
funny look if there are staff on duty, but that's it.

U

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For some reason, Watford Junction is seriously upsetting the
Oystercard computer.
There were two articles recently about all sorts of discrepencies, and
I believe it's all to do
with Watford Junction not being in a Travelcard zone, whereas for
example, Watford High Street is.

On 8 Apr, 10:03, Mr Thant
wrote:

On 8 Apr, 09:53, wrote:

Good idea, but would need to walk out the gates and back in again as
no Oyster readers on or between the platforms . . . All seems a bit
daft!


Right, I thought the standalone readers on the platforms may well have
vanished, and given that they were intended for passengers with paper
tickets transferring from the NLL or WLL - both of which now accept
Oyster PAYG throughout - I'm not really surprised by their
disappearance.


You might not have noticed, but there is a barriered exit about
halfway along the corridor between the platforms where it'd be very
easy to do this. On the right coming from the NLL. You might get a
funny look if there are staff on duty, but that's it.


As there are in fact two gated entrances, one could leave via one set
of gates in the old redbrick station building then walk along the
'floating walkway' to the new-ish secondary entrance next to the bus
stops at the western edge of the station before re-entering. It's the
long way round, thought it really isn't that far, but if it's raining
or one misses one's connection then it might not seem like such a
great idea.

I quite agree with Jake the OP's comments that this all seems pretty
daft, and I also share his lack of optimism that anything will change
as a mere result of his enquiry.

May I suggest that actually writing a (physical, hard-to-ignore,
paper) letter to the Oyster people might elicit a better response if
you get nothing out of them first time round. Nothing too complicated,
merely a concise note which states that the overall fare you paid
doesn't live up to the Oyster lowest price promise - and as it's a
journey you wish to do regularly then unless something is done about
it you will continually come across this issue and be asking them for
a refund.

On 8 Apr, 11:43, Mizter T wrote:
As there are in fact two gated entrances, one could leave via one set
of gates in the old redbrick station building then walk along the
'floating walkway' to the new-ish secondary entrance next to the bus
stops at the western edge of the station before re-entering.

The floating walkway is within the barriers. You'd have to go through
the bus station to get to the second entrance from the outside.

It's the
long way round, thought it really isn't that far, but if it's raining
or one misses one's connection then it might not seem like such a
great idea.

Especially when you could have just touched back in at the same
gateline and not have to go more than a few feet from the interchange
route.

U

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http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London

On 8 Apr, 11:56, Mr Thant
wrote:

On 8 Apr, 11:43, Mizter T wrote:

As there are in fact two gated entrances, one could leave via one set
of gates in the old redbrick station building then walk along the
'floating walkway' to the new-ish secondary entrance next to the bus
stops at the western edge of the station before re-entering.

The floating walkway is within the barriers. You'd have to go through
the bus station to get to the second entrance from the outside.

Yes, you're absolutely right - my mistake.


It's the
long way round, thought it really isn't that far, but if it's raining
or one misses one's connection then it might not seem like such a
great idea.

Especially when you could have just touched back in at the same
gateline and not have to go more than a few feet from the interchange
route.


Well, if one wanted to avoid odd looks from the gateline staff then I
suppose it's an option!

Mizter T wrote in
:

On 7 Apr, 17:33, "Paul Scott" wrote:

wrote:
Where exactly are you touching in or out during all this? It
sounds like you're being issued the £3 unresolved journey penalty
fare for not touching in.


I'm touching in at Gunnersbury, taking the London Overground to
Willesden (on my Oyster Z2-3 weekly travelcard) and from there to
Watford Jn where I touch out.

I am no expert, but the Euston Watford local fares are explained as a
special case applicable to the former DC lines route only. So unless
you touch in for PAYG at Willesden Junction, how does the Oyster
computer deci
de
where you started the PAYG leg? Clearly Willesden Junction is the
likely change point, but it may not be programmed to assume that.


I agree with that analysis - the thing is that it just isn't very
logical to do this journey via any other route.


Doesn't the special rule for Off-Peak on the Euston line present all sorts
of problems like this, to a much greater extent than the blanket 07:00 -
19:00 "peak"?

What is the fare from Watford Junction to Oxford Circus via Euston leaving
at 10:15? Does the system charge:

a) £ 6.00 (the peak fare from Watford to Oxford Circus) or

b) £ 4.50 (the £3.00 off-peak fare from Watford to Euston [London
Overground]) plus the a Z1 fare, £1.50?

David