On my first trip using oyster prepay from west hampstead to london
bridge the whole incident was a farce. At london bridge I tried
exiting via the barriers only to be told by a goon that west hampstead
is not a valid PAYG. I was then told by a revenue protection officer
that I had to touch the prepay reader by the pillars on platform 6.
Thus backtracking... Eventually I found the inconspicious prepay
validator in an atrium.

At farringdon I could not find the prepay validators, so I had to exit
the station using my FCC ticket and re enter using my oyster card.
That was a complete mess, considering the FCC and tube platforms are
next to each other. The only thing that I could find was a carnet
validator.

This intergrated transport idea is a complete mess.

In message
, at
23:25:30 on Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Aosmosis remarked:
At farringdon I could not find the prepay validators

There are some at the ends of the footbridge at the north end of the
station.
--
Roland Perry

On 12 Apr, 07:25, Aosmosis wrote:

On my first trip using oyster prepay from west hampstead to london
bridge the whole incident was a farce. At london bridge I tried
exiting via the barriers only to be told by a goon that west hampstead
is not a valid PAYG. I was then told by a revenue protection officer
that I had to touch the prepay reader by the pillars on platform 6.
Thus backtracking... Eventually I found the inconspicious prepay
validator in an atrium.


London Bridge is an odd situation where the gates are not programmed
to accept Oyster PAYG, so you need to touch-in or out at the
standalone Oyster readers on the main platforms where the FCC
Thameslink trains arrive or depart then once you get to the gates you
then need to ask the staff to be let out (or in) - when you do this
you'll need to say that you were travelling (or if arriving you intend
on travelling) on First Capital Connect / Thameslink, otherwise
they'll just presume you are one of the many people who erroneously
try and use Oyster PAYG on mainline trains in south London on which it
is not valid.

I'm sure the reason for this set-up is to stop people from mistakenly
using/abusing Oyster PAYG just so as to get past the gates at London
Bridge - FCC Thameslink is the *only* mainline rail services at London
Bridge that accepts Oyster PAYG, and given that you can easily reach
all the destinations by Underground (except City Thameslink) from
London Bridge the presumption must be that most people who are outside
London Bridge (as opposed to those who are interchanging from one
mainline train to FCC Thameslink or vice versa) would instead travel
by Tube.

Annoying, but there you go - when Oyster PAYG eventually gets accepted
on all mainline rail services in London this problem will vanish.


At farringdon I could not find the prepay validators, so I had to exit
the station using my FCC ticket and re enter using my oyster card.
That was a complete mess, considering the FCC and tube platforms are
next to each other. The only thing that I could find was a carnet
validator.



There are standalone Oyster readers at Farringdon - downthread Roland
Perry has stated where some are, but I'm quite sure there are others
(in particular next to the stairs that link the southbound FCC
Thameslink platform to the westbound Circle line platform).

On 12 Apr, 11:08, Mizter T wrote:
On 12 Apr, 07:25, Aosmosis wrote:



On my first trip using oyster prepay from west hampstead to london
bridge the whole incident was a farce. At london bridge I tried
exiting via the barriers only to be told by a goon that west hampstead
is not a valid PAYG. I was then told by a revenue protection officer
that I had to touch the prepay reader by the pillars on platform 6.
Thus backtracking... Eventually I found the inconspicious prepay
validator in an atrium.

London Bridge is an odd situation where the gates are not programmed
to accept Oyster PAYG, so you need to touch-in or out at the
standalone Oyster readers on the main platforms where the FCC
Thameslink trains arrive or depart then once you get to the gates you
then need to ask the staff to be let out (or in) - when you do this
you'll need to say that you were travelling (or if arriving you intend
on travelling) on First Capital Connect / Thameslink, otherwise
they'll just presume you are one of the many people who erroneously
try and use Oyster PAYG on mainline trains in south London on which it
is not valid.

I'm sure the reason for this set-up is to stop people from mistakenly
using/abusing Oyster PAYG just so as to get past the gates at London
Bridge - FCC Thameslink is the *only* mainline rail services at London
Bridge that accepts Oyster PAYG, and given that you can easily reach
all the destinations by Underground (except City Thameslink) from
London Bridge the presumption must be that most people who are outside
London Bridge (as opposed to those who are interchanging from one
mainline train to FCC Thameslink or vice versa) would instead travel
by Tube.

Annoying, but there you go - when Oyster PAYG eventually gets accepted
on all mainline rail services in London this problem will vanish.



At farringdon I could not find the prepay validators, so I had to exit
the station using my FCC ticket and re enter using my oyster card.
That was a complete mess, considering the FCC and tube platforms are
next to each other. The only thing that I could find was a carnet
validator.

There are standalone Oyster readers at Farringdon - downthread Roland
Perry has stated where some are, but I'm quite sure there are others
(in particular next to the stairs that link the southbound FCC
Thameslink platform to the westbound Circle line platform).

I have a feeling too that there's one by that short flight of steps.
There's certainly a Carnet validator there (remember those?).

PaulO

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message
, at
23:25:30 on Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Aosmosis remarked:
At farringdon I could not find the prepay validators

There are some at the ends of the footbridge at the north end of the
station.
--
Roland Perry

It is a fair point, however (as I have mentioned before), the validators are
small, grey and inconspicuous. People often rest on them or they can be
otherwise hidden by crowds. Given their importance, they should be bright
orange and have a pole on top with a flashing light saying "TAP HERE" !

MaxB

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:08:06 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote this gibberish:


On 12 Apr, 07:25, Aosmosis wrote:

On my first trip using oyster prepay from west hampstead to london
bridge the whole incident was a farce. At london bridge I tried
exiting via the barriers only to be told by a goon that west hampstead
is not a valid PAYG. I was then told by a revenue protection officer
that I had to touch the prepay reader by the pillars on platform 6.
Thus backtracking... Eventually I found the inconspicious prepay
validator in an atrium.


London Bridge is an odd situation where the gates are not programmed
to accept Oyster PAYG, so you need to touch-in or out at the
standalone Oyster readers on the main platforms where the FCC
Thameslink trains arrive or depart then once you get to the gates you
then need to ask the staff to be let out (or in) - when you do this
you'll need to say that you were travelling (or if arriving you intend
on travelling) on First Capital Connect / Thameslink, otherwise
they'll just presume you are one of the many people who erroneously
try and use Oyster PAYG on mainline trains in south London on which it
is not valid.

I'm sure the reason for this set-up is to stop people from mistakenly
using/abusing Oyster PAYG just so as to get past the gates at London
Bridge - FCC Thameslink is the *only* mainline rail services at London
Bridge that accepts Oyster PAYG, and given that you can easily reach
all the destinations by Underground (except City Thameslink) from
London Bridge the presumption must be that most people who are outside
London Bridge (as opposed to those who are interchanging from one
mainline train to FCC Thameslink or vice versa) would instead travel
by Tube.

Can oyster payg be used from london bridge into woolwich or london
bridge to victoria? those are journeys I could be making often in the
summer.
--
Mark.
www.MarkVarleyPhoto.co.uk
www.TwistedPhotography.co.uk
www.TwistedArts.co.uk
www.FacelessLadies.com
www.BeautifulBondage.net

On 12 Apr, 18:06, MarkVarley - MVP
wrote:

(snip)

Can oyster payg be used from london bridge into woolwich or london
bridge to victoria? those are journeys I could be making often in the
summer.


No.

The only mainline (aka National Rail) routes on which you can use
Oyster PAYG are shown on this map (PDF):

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...G-08-01-02.pdf


The above map should get updated fairly soon to reflect the upcoming
availability of Oyster PAYG between Paddington and Ealing Broadway, in
which case the new map will be linked to from the following TfL
webpage:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/oysteronline/6369.aspx


Basically south London is an Oyster PAYG no-go zone. One day over the
rainbow things will be different, but I think we've still got a while
yet to go.

As ever when using Oyster PAYG, remember to always touch-in and out -
something to particularly bear in mind when entering or exiting
ungated stations.

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:15:39 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote this gibberish:

On 12 Apr, 18:06, MarkVarley - MVP
wrote:

(snip)

Can oyster payg be used from london bridge into woolwich or london
bridge to victoria? those are journeys I could be making often in the
summer.


No.

The only mainline (aka National Rail) routes on which you can use
Oyster PAYG are shown on this map (PDF):

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...G-08-01-02.pdf


The above map should get updated fairly soon to reflect the upcoming
availability of Oyster PAYG between Paddington and Ealing Broadway, in
which case the new map will be linked to from the following TfL
webpage:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/oysteronline/6369.aspx


Basically south London is an Oyster PAYG no-go zone. One day over the
rainbow things will be different, but I think we've still got a while
yet to go.

As ever when using Oyster PAYG, remember to always touch-in and out -
something to particularly bear in mind when entering or exiting
ungated stations.

Thanks for that, back to paper tickets for me then
--
Mark.
www.MarkVarleyPhoto.co.uk
www.TwistedPhotography.co.uk
www.TwistedArts.co.uk
www.FacelessLadies.com
www.BeautifulBondage.net