On 22 Apr, 14:29, alex_t wrote:
Bakerloo is probably the worst line out of deep-level ones - old
stock, twisted tunnels, and no reversal points between Paddington and
Elephant & Castle.

As Boltar says, I thought there was one at Piccadilly Circus; I'm sure
I've seen the Bakerloo shut south of Piccadilly Circus before. This
was initially why I thought the train from Charing Cross was crawling
towards Piccadilly, that it was having to wait for a reversing train,
but the numbers of people waiting at Piccadilly didn't seem to bear
that out.

I'd imagine that it is very hard to regulate such
limited service (Paddington to Elephant & Castle) and probably in
opposite directions there was severe overcrowding.

Clearly it is, my question is why is it difficult? Admittedly I'm
looking at it from the layman's perspective (which is why I'm
asking!), but to my way of thinking, the signal fails, you switch onto
running from Paddington to E&C only. You see that on that stretch of
line there are, say, eight trains. You know it takes 20 minutes to
get between the two end points plus four mins to changeover. Which
means (I think) a train about every seven minutes in either
direction. But this wasn't happening.

Also due to
disruption been very early - it might have been that most trains did
not make it to the separated section from the depot...

Good point; I'm not sure how long before 0650 the line was closed
north of Paddington.

Like I said, not meaning to rant, and, unlike Boltar, I don't think
it's sheer bloody mindedness on the part of the staff. Just trying to
understand it all.

Patrick

On Apr 22, 2:44 pm, Patrick Osborne wrote:
Also due to
disruption been very early - it might have been that most trains did
not make it to the separated section from the depot...

Good point; I'm not sure how long before 0650 the line was closed
north of Paddington.

Don't forget they also have a depot at London Road south of E&C so
there shouldn't have been a shortage of trains even if it was cut off
north of paddington.


Like I said, not meaning to rant, and, unlike Boltar, I don't think
it's sheer bloody mindedness on the part of the staff. Just trying to
understand it all.

Its not bloody mindedness , they simply don't care. How hard would it
have been for the driver to make a tannoy announcement even if its
only to apologise that he has no info and suggest taking an
alternative route because the journey might take a long time? Not hard
at all. But he didn't, which says it all really.

B2003

On 22 Apr, 15:06, Boltar wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:44 pm, Patrick Osborne wrote:

Also due to
disruption been very early - it might have been that most trains did
not make it to the separated section from the depot...

Good point; I'm not sure how long before 0650 the line was closed
north of Paddington.

Don't forget they also have a depot at London Road south of E&C so
there shouldn't have been a shortage of trains even if it was cut off
north of paddington.

It actually joins the running lines just north of Lambeth North, and
effectively provides a reversing point as well.

As Boltar says, I thought there was one at Piccadilly Circus

Looks like it is disused right now - I remember reading about that
recently.


Like I said, not meaning to rant, and, unlike Boltar, I don't think
it's sheer bloody mindedness on the part of the staff. Just trying to
understand it all.

I understand (you) :-)

By the way, to think of it - they had engineering works between
Paddington and Harrow & Wealdstone during the weekend. Could service
suspension be due to late finish?