On 23 Apr, 23:35, MarkVarley - MVP
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:06:42 +0100, Paul Corfield
wrote this gibberish:

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:53:40 +0100, MarkVarley - MVP
wrote:

It would surely be dead easy to set the system whereby if you board a
bus within, say, an hour of boarding another on the same route in the
same direction you are not charged again.

They have bus to bus transfer in New York. Return trips are banned
within the transfer system so as to force people to pay for an outward
and return ride. While not quite the same rule as the one you suggest
the software programming was absolutely horrendous and I can see the
permutations being required in London for "forward" transfer being even
worse. I appreciate you say transfer onto a bus on the same route but
that would simply not be sustainable as the public would refuse to be
restricted to waiting for a 38 when they could, on some sections, also
take a 19 or a 341 for example. All of this "Logic" would have to be
programmed and maintained and it would probably cost as much as it
sought to save. Therefore you need a different commercial rule.

Then perhaps a policy of ignoring the practice when encountered would
be nice )


I dare suggest that, in practice, that's just what would happen, not
least because AIUI unless an inspector does a 'deep interrogation' of
passengers' Oyster cards they will only be aware that said card has
been validated on a particular route rather than on a particular
vehicle. Do note however that the legal situation has been clearly
outlined above.


Some days I only do the same bus route twice with a couple of stops so
I could pay £3.60 to go to Victoria and back instead of £1.80 to cover
the same distance in more or less the same time on the same bus route.
not enough to be getting into travel card price capping but it adds
up.

Surely under the £3.60 example you are actually capped at £3 for a One
Day Bus cap using Oyster PAYG? No need to trigger a One Day Travelcard
cap.

I didn't know about the one day bus cap, but it's still £1.20 more
than necessary, that's almost a sandwich! this is my Yorkshire origins
showing through I think...


I'm not sure that many people know about the £3 daily bus cap - it's
very useful, so spread the word! Here's the TfL webpage about it:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/faresandtickets/singlefares/2903.aspx

Note that even if you travel on the Tube, the £3 daily bus cap will
apply if it's cheaper - e.g. if you make four bus journeys (£3) and
one Tube journey in zone 2 (£1), then only the bus cap will be
triggered and you'll pay for the Underground journey separately, coz
it's cheaper that way.

I don't know how predictable your travelling patterns are, but you
might find the £13 weekly bus pass or even the £15 weekly zones 2&3
Travelcard useful (any Travelcard regardless of zones affords one
travel on all buses across Greater London).