On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:35:03 -0700 (PDT), MIG
wrote:

On 8 May, 17:30, James Farrar wrote:

Your moan about not all gates showing the balance is technically true
but irrelevant - the only gates, TTBOMK, that don't have a display are
the *in* gates on the oldest model gates. Even if you happen to use
one such gate to enter the Tube system, you will still be leaving it
by a gate with a reader or a standalone target - all of which will
show you your balance.

I can't remember the last time I went in or out of an LU gate that
displayed anything at all apart from maybe "Enter" or "Exit".

Using PAYG or a Travelcard?

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

On May 8, 5:37*pm, James Farrar wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:35:03 -0700 (PDT), MIG

wrote:
On 8 May, 17:30, James Farrar wrote:
Your moan about not all gates showing the balance is technically true
but irrelevant - the only gates, TTBOMK, that don't have a display are
the *in* gates on the oldest model gates. Even if you happen to use
one such gate to enter the Tube system, you will still be leaving it
by a gate with a reader or a standalone target - all of which will
show you your balance.

I can't remember the last time I went in or out of an LU gate that
displayed anything at all apart from maybe "Enter" or "Exit".

Using PAYG or a Travelcard?

I may not have bothered to look when using a travelcard. But today
I've been through barriers at Chancery Lane using PAYG, in and out,
and they have showed nothing at all.

I think some newer ones have a tiny display on the pad, but it's not
really practical to lean back and peer at it when there's a queue
behind.

I am sure that there used to be information (even if confusing, ie
what's deducted, what's left ...) on the sticky up bits ahead of you,
but they don't display any figures any more. There seems to have been
a general change.

On Thu, 8 May 2008 11:28:50 -0700 (PDT), MIG
wrote:

On May 8, 5:37*pm, James Farrar wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:35:03 -0700 (PDT), MIG

wrote:
On 8 May, 17:30, James Farrar wrote:
Your moan about not all gates showing the balance is technically true
but irrelevant - the only gates, TTBOMK, that don't have a display are
the *in* gates on the oldest model gates. Even if you happen to use
one such gate to enter the Tube system, you will still be leaving it
by a gate with a reader or a standalone target - all of which will
show you your balance.

I can't remember the last time I went in or out of an LU gate that
displayed anything at all apart from maybe "Enter" or "Exit".

Using PAYG or a Travelcard?

I may not have bothered to look when using a travelcard. But today
I've been through barriers at Chancery Lane using PAYG, in and out,
and they have showed nothing at all.

I think some newer ones have a tiny display on the pad, but it's not
really practical to lean back and peer at it when there's a queue
behind.

The oldest gates have displays on the reader (on out gates); all the
other gates have displays on the Exit/Enter display (both ways).

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

On May 8, 7:44*pm, James Farrar wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2008 11:28:50 -0700 (PDT), MIG





wrote:
On May 8, 5:37*pm, James Farrar wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:35:03 -0700 (PDT), MIG

wrote:
On 8 May, 17:30, James Farrar wrote:
Your moan about not all gates showing the balance is technically true
but irrelevant - the only gates, TTBOMK, that don't have a display are
the *in* gates on the oldest model gates. Even if you happen to use
one such gate to enter the Tube system, you will still be leaving it
by a gate with a reader or a standalone target - all of which will
show you your balance.

I can't remember the last time I went in or out of an LU gate that
displayed anything at all apart from maybe "Enter" or "Exit".

Using PAYG or a Travelcard?

I may not have bothered to look when using a travelcard. *But today
I've been through barriers at Chancery Lane using PAYG, in and out,
and they have showed nothing at all.

I think some newer ones have a tiny display on the pad, but it's not
really practical to lean back and peer at it when there's a queue
behind.

The oldest gates have displays on the reader (on out gates); all the
other gates have displays on the Exit/Enter display (both ways).

Having displays is not the same as displaying anything. There really
seems to be a change, and barriers that used to display information no
longer do.

On Thu, 8 May 2008 11:53:19 -0700 (PDT), MIG
wrote:

On May 8, 7:44*pm, James Farrar wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2008 11:28:50 -0700 (PDT), MIG





wrote:
On May 8, 5:37*pm, James Farrar wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:35:03 -0700 (PDT), MIG

wrote:
On 8 May, 17:30, James Farrar wrote:
Your moan about not all gates showing the balance is technically true
but irrelevant - the only gates, TTBOMK, that don't have a display are
the *in* gates on the oldest model gates. Even if you happen to use
one such gate to enter the Tube system, you will still be leaving it
by a gate with a reader or a standalone target - all of which will
show you your balance.

I can't remember the last time I went in or out of an LU gate that
displayed anything at all apart from maybe "Enter" or "Exit".

Using PAYG or a Travelcard?

I may not have bothered to look when using a travelcard. *But today
I've been through barriers at Chancery Lane using PAYG, in and out,
and they have showed nothing at all.

I think some newer ones have a tiny display on the pad, but it's not
really practical to lean back and peer at it when there's a queue
behind.

The oldest gates have displays on the reader (on out gates); all the
other gates have displays on the Exit/Enter display (both ways).

Having displays is not the same as displaying anything. There really
seems to be a change, and barriers that used to display information no
longer do.

I never use PAYG on Z1 gates (I think all the oldest gates are in Z1),
but occasionally travel with someone who does, and they have always
had an updated figure. Perhaps you should write to TfL and let them
know that there is a problem with the gates at this station.

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

James Farrar gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

Having displays is not the same as displaying anything. There really
seems to be a change, and barriers that used to display information no
longer do.

I never use PAYG on Z1 gates (I think all the oldest gates are in Z1),
but occasionally travel with someone who does, and they have always had
an updated figure. Perhaps you should write to TfL and let them know
that there is a problem with the gates at this station.

The barrier definitely displayed a balance this morning as I entered the
station here out in the boonies of zone 7...