On Sat, 10 May 2008, alex_t wrote:

When you say "russian X", you mean "russian letter that looks like an
X", right?

Yep, exactly. I was trying to be clever and avoid encoding
problems ;-)

Yup. For those who kan't see KOI8 kharakters properly (like me!), this
one looks a bit like a rektangular W, possibly with a little tail like
a Q, i kan't remember.

I don't think those were KOI8 characters, my Firefox is set to UTF-8
encoding... then again, I have no idea really.

Your content-type header said KOI8. It's possible that you sent it as
UTF-8 but that it got transcoded at some point along the way, i think.

Also, I have custom made Russian keyboard layout which only one person
in world uses (me) - and I have no idea whether this is mapped to
Unicode Russian, Windows Russian, or UNIX Russian (KOI-8).

Pass! I would imagine that your operating system, if it's modern, is using
unicode internally, that your newsreader is using unicode represented as
UTF-8 (as you said), but that before it goes to the network, it's getting
encoded as KOI8. BICBW.

tom

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Pass! I would imagine that your operating system, if it's modern, is using
unicode internally, that your newsreader is using unicode represented as
UTF-8 (as you said), but that before it goes to the network, it's getting
encoded as KOI8. BICBW.

My "newsreader" is actually Google Groups - who known what weird
things Google's doing "out there" ;-)

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alex_t writes

Pass! I would imagine that your operating system, if it's modern, is using
unicode internally, that your newsreader is using unicode represented as
UTF-8 (as you said), but that before it goes to the network, it's getting
encoded as KOI8. BICBW.

My "newsreader" is actually Google Groups - who known what weird
things Google's doing "out there" ;-)

Google handle KOI8 encoding properly - and UTF-8, too. Microsoft don't
(in Hotmail, at least).

Gives me no end of hassles in Mosocw.

(And to be within shouting distance of the topic, the worst thing on the
Moscow Metro is that the different lines in an interchange station will
all have their own station names, so Arbat is the same station as Lenin
Library (for instance))
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Steve

On Tue, 13 May 2008, Steve wrote:

(And to be within shouting distance of the topic, the worst thing on the
Moscow Metro is that the different lines in an interchange station will
all have their own station names, so Arbat is the same station as Lenin
Library (for instance))

Same in New York, isn't it - 51st Street is also Lexington Avenue / 53rd
Street. Which is not to be confused with 5th Avenue / 53rd Street. Nor is
7th Avenue to be confused with 57th Street - 7th Avenue, nor that with
57th Street. It's okay to confuse 59th Street with Lexington Avenue / 59th
Street, though, since those *are* the same station. But not to confuse
50th Street with 50th Street, nor 23rd Street with any of 23rd Street,
23rd Street, 23rd Street, or 23rd Street.

Basically, pack of jokers.

Although i should confess that this kind of silliness does go on in London
- we've two each of Edgware Road, Paddington, Hammersmith and Shepherds
Bush. But only one case where a single station has two names.

tom

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