On 7 May, 12:27, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Is this a real problem?

No, but it's a good excuse for pompous moralising. See also the ramble
about privilege and individual responsibility at the end of this press
release:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...ntre/8162.aspx

Serves us right for electing a tory.

U

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Mr Thant wrote:
On 7 May, 12:27, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Is this a real problem?

No, but it's a good excuse for pompous moralising. See also the ramble
about privilege and individual responsibility at the end of this press
release:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...ntre/8162.aspx

Serves us right for electing a tory.

What exactly is your problem with requiring kids to behave with reasonable
civility in return for the privilege of free travel?
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"Mr Thant" wrote in message
...
On 7 May, 12:27, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Is this a real problem?

No, but it's a good excuse for pompous moralising. See also the ramble
about privilege and individual responsibility at the end of this press
release:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...ntre/8162.aspx

Serves us right for electing a tory.

U

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A blog about transport projects in London

No chance that this ban will also apply to the TfL Commissioner drinking on
duty I suppose but then what do you expect when you vote for a Socialist.
Or pay him millions of pounds to sit on his backside doing bugger all.

Kevin

So now the BTP have the distraction of having to stop people and
confiscating beer while the next suicide bomber slips by. What a waste
of policing resources!

wrote in message
...
So now the BTP have the distraction of having to stop people and
confiscating beer while the next suicide bomber slips by. What a waste
of policing resources!

What a pathetic arguement, let's dispense with smoking bans and the need to
buy tickets for the same reason.

Kevin

On May 7, 12:27 pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
From:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7387113.stm

"That's why from 1 June the drinking of alcohol will be banned from the
tube, tram, bus, and Docklands Light Railway."

Have they forgotten the 'Overground' then?
Will crowds flock to mainline terminals with bars on the concourses?
Is this a real problem?

Paul

Hmm. I can't honestly say that I've seen an awefully large number of
people drinking on public transport, either tube or bus, in the few
years that I've been living in the capital. More public transport
journeys are pretty short, so there's rarely enough time for even the
most light-weighted drinker to become drunk.

Ofcourse I've seen plently of trouble on public transport involving
drunk people, but they were all already drunk before boarding,
something that Boris' new legislation will do nothing to prevent.

James wrote:

Hmm. I can't honestly say that I've seen an awefully large number of
people drinking on public transport, either tube or bus, in the few
years that I've been living in the capital. More public transport
journeys are pretty short, so there's rarely enough time for even the
most light-weighted drinker to become drunk.

Ofcourse I've seen plently of trouble on public transport involving
drunk people, but they were all already drunk before boarding,
something that Boris' new legislation will do nothing to prevent.

That's it in a nutshell - I saw someone perfectly well behaved with a
can of Magners on the tube into town last Friday, then came home myself
on a bus after a birthday night out, obviously without a drop of booze
*on* me, but with the Electric Soup lapping the tonsils. It's not
people drinking on the tube you need to worry about, it's people being
drunk *and misbehaving*, which I'm sure was already covered by various
offences.

Look at it this way - if I go to the pub and have ten pints of *******
Strength Lager, then buy a can of Coke, get on the tube and drink it,
Boris says I'm fine. If I go to the pub and have ten Cokes, then buy a
can of ******* Strength Lager, get on the tube and drink it, I get
collared. What's the logic in that? Which case is more likely to lead
to a public nuisance? In which case am I even over the drink drive
limit, for heaven's sake?

I get the fearful impression Boris is indeed cracking on with his
promises and actually believed the rubbish his campaign put out. This
may well be more dangerous than the cynical politician who says what he
thinks will get him elected, then bins it and does what he wants when
the feet are under the desk.

Tom

On 7 May, 13:19, Tom Barry wrote:
James wrote:

Hmm. I can't honestly say that I've seen an awefully large number of
people drinking on public transport, either tube or bus, in the few
years that I've been living in the capital. More public transport
journeys are pretty short, so there's rarely enough time for even the
most light-weighted drinker to become drunk.

Ofcourse I've seen plently of trouble on public transport involving
drunk people, but they were all already drunk before boarding,
something that Boris' new legislation will do nothing to prevent.

That's it in a nutshell - I saw someone perfectly well behaved with a
can of Magners on the tube into town last Friday, then came home myself
on a bus after a birthday night out, obviously without a drop of booze
*on* me, but with the Electric Soup lapping the tonsils. *It's not
people drinking on the tube you need to worry about, it's people being
drunk *and misbehaving*, which I'm sure was already covered by various
offences.

Look at it this way - if I go to the pub and have ten pints of *******
Strength Lager, then buy a can of Coke, get on the tube and drink it,
Boris says I'm fine. *If I go to the pub and have ten Cokes, then buy a
can of ******* Strength Lager, get on the tube and drink it, I get
collared. *What's the logic in that? *Which case is more likely to lead
to a public nuisance? *In which case am I even over the drink drive
limit, for heaven's sake?

I get the fearful impression Boris is indeed cracking on with his
promises and actually believed the rubbish his campaign put out. *This
may well be more dangerous than the cynical politician who says what he
thinks will get him elected, then bins it and does what he wants when
the feet are under the desk.

Usually something silly like this would be a way of criminalising
something everyone does so that when you want to arrest someone,
you've always got an excuse.

But in this case, almost no one ever does it anyway, so it doesn't
achieve that.

Maybe it's just a case of implementing a lot of small and easy
policies so that they can claim "we have implemented 99% of our
election pledges (by number)".

Implementing this policy requires no more effort and commitment than
sticking up some notices telling people not to do what they are not
doing.

On May 7, 3:17*pm, MIG wrote:
On 7 May, 13:19, Tom Barry wrote:





James wrote:

Hmm. I can't honestly say that I've seen an awefully large number of
people drinking on public transport, either tube or bus, in the few
years that I've been living in the capital. More public transport
journeys are pretty short, so there's rarely enough time for even the
most light-weighted drinker to become drunk.

Ofcourse I've seen plently of trouble on public transport involving
drunk people, but they were all already drunk before boarding,
something that Boris' new legislation will do nothing to prevent.

That's it in a nutshell - I saw someone perfectly well behaved with a
can of Magners on the tube into town last Friday, then came home myself
on a bus after a birthday night out, obviously without a drop of booze
*on* me, but with the Electric Soup lapping the tonsils. *It's not
people drinking on the tube you need to worry about, it's people being
drunk *and misbehaving*, which I'm sure was already covered by various
offences.

Look at it this way - if I go to the pub and have ten pints of *******
Strength Lager, then buy a can of Coke, get on the tube and drink it,
Boris says I'm fine. *If I go to the pub and have ten Cokes, then buy a
can of ******* Strength Lager, get on the tube and drink it, I get
collared. *What's the logic in that? *Which case is more likely to lead
to a public nuisance? *In which case am I even over the drink drive
limit, for heaven's sake?

I get the fearful impression Boris is indeed cracking on with his
promises and actually believed the rubbish his campaign put out. *This
may well be more dangerous than the cynical politician who says what he
thinks will get him elected, then bins it and does what he wants when
the feet are under the desk.

Usually something silly like this would be a way of criminalising
something everyone does so that when you want to arrest someone,
you've always got an excuse.

But in this case, almost no one ever does it anyway, so it doesn't
achieve that.

Maybe it's just a case of implementing a lot of small and easy
policies so that they can claim "we have implemented 99% of our
election pledges (by number)".

Implementing this policy requires no more effort and commitment than
sticking up some notices telling people not to do what they are not
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Id like to say I am a regular bus drinker and this will affect me
directly.

Rob

In message
, Rob
writes

Id like to say I am a regular bus drinker and this will affect me
directly.

Interesting - what does a bus taste like?

gets coat and exits stage left with a quick "I thank you"



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