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On Wed, 7 May 2008 04:53:58 -0700 (PDT), James
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Hmm. I can't honestly say that I've seen an awefully large number of
people drinking on public transport, either tube or bus, in the few
years that I've been living in the capital. More public transport
journeys are pretty short, so there's rarely enough time for even the
most light-weighted drinker to become drunk.


It does bloody stink when someone is drinking a can of beer on the top
deck of a bus and they spill it, though. Far worse than a can of Coke
or a coffee.

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In message , at 20:29:40 on Wed,
7 May 2008, Neil Williams remarked:
It does bloody stink when someone is drinking a can of beer on the top
deck of a bus and they spill it, though. Far worse than a can of Coke
or a coffee.


Plenty of bus operators ban all food and drink.
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On Thu, 8 May 2008 10:33:38 +0200, Roland Perry
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Plenty of bus operators ban all food and drink.


Only those who are more interested in their cleaning bill than in
passenger comfort. It is a benefit of bus and train travel that one
can safely enjoy refreshments, unlike while driving a car.

I understand and support a ban on hot food, as it stinks, but so long
as you don't chuck the rubbish on the floor there's no good reason for
not allowing at least cold drinks and sandwiches.

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In message , at 19:38:39 on Thu,
8 May 2008, Neil Williams remarked:
Plenty of bus operators ban all food and drink.


Only those who are more interested in their cleaning bill than in
passenger comfort.


It is not conducive to passenger comfort to be surrounded by litter,
smelly food and so on.

It is a benefit of bus and train travel that one
can safely enjoy refreshments, unlike while driving a car.


National Rail trains are different, but no-one is likely to starve when
on a local bus.

I understand and support a ban on hot food, as it stinks, but so long
as you don't chuck the rubbish on the floor there's no good reason for
not allowing at least cold drinks and sandwiches.


Unfortunately, people only seem to understand total bans, as somewhat
evidenced by people gleefully rehearsing various 'loopholes' in this
thread.
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On 7 May, 12:27, "Paul Scott" wrote:
From:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7387113.stm

"That's why from 1 June the drinking of alcohol will be banned from the
tube, tram, bus, and Docklands Light Railway."

Have they forgotten the 'Overground' then?
Will crowds flock to mainline terminals with bars on the concourses?
Is this a real problem?

Paul


Do you think Thames Clippers will be affected by the alcohol ban. They
sell alcohol on board. A bottle of becks on the deck of a boat down to
Woolwich on a sunny evening was one of lifes little pleasures. No more
I suppose

Rob


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On Wed, 7 May 2008 06:02:31 -0700 (PDT), Rob
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Do you think Thames Clippers will be affected by the alcohol ban.


I would imagine not, as they are not under TfL's jurisdiction, so far
as I understand it. Just as drink won't be banned on mainline
stations as they, again, are not Boris's to play with.

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Paul Scott wrote:
From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7387113.stm

"That's why from 1 June the drinking of alcohol will be banned from the
tube, tram, bus, and Docklands Light Railway."

Have they forgotten the 'Overground' then?
Will crowds flock to mainline terminals with bars on the concourses?
Is this a real problem?

Paul



Explanation of the Overground anomaly:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/07/lt_booze_ban/

"Those travelling on overground services will have to suffer pie-eyed
fellow commuters for somewhat longer, however, since "Transport for
London has to apply to the Department for Transport for permission to
enforce the bar on the consumption of alcohol" on those routes."

The unions are already getting fidgety about enforcing it (they haven't
been asked, apparently), plus it's not actually being made illegal on
1st June anyway. You can be 'ejected', although by whom isn't stated,
but not punished, although presumably resisting the BTP plod who comes
to throw you out is already an offence.

Therefore, my advice to those of you who get thirsty on the tube is to
wait until you've left the station immediately before the one you want
to get off at. Then, if challenged, neck it back and descend gracefully
onto the platform at your stop with a cheery wave and polite thank you
to whatever poor sod kicked you off.

What's the longest gap between stops on the tube, anyway?

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In message , at 16:24:00 on Wed, 7
May 2008, Tom Barry remarked:
What's the longest gap between stops on the tube, anyway?


Metropolitan line (Chesham to Chalfont & Latimer - 6.26km (3.89 miles)

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/mode...derground/1608
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:24:00 on Wed, 7
May 2008, Tom Barry remarked:
What's the longest gap between stops on the tube, anyway?


Metropolitan line (Chesham to Chalfont & Latimer - 6.26km (3.89 miles)

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/mode...derground/1608
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Blimey. Jeroboams all round between those two, then.

Tom
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On May 7, 5:35*pm, Tom Barry wrote:

Blimey. *Jeroboams all round between those two, then.


Quite literally - I've a feeling both appeared in the Top 50 "Rich
Towns" listing in the Telegraph recently...


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