In message , at 20:56:34 on
Mon, 12 May 2008, Paul Scott remarked:
By 'Midland Road LL' do you mean the [currently unused] entrance at the east
end of the St Pancras domestic concourse - which will also add MML and the
Kent Domestic pax into the passageway to the Northern ticket hall?

It's not intended to be the exit for MML passengers - hence the way the
escalators from the MML platforms dump you too far south to be useful.

Someone posted a diagram with the flows on it a couple of months ago.
--
Roland Perry

In article ,
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:38:27 on
Sat, 10 May 2008, Paul Corfield remarked:
Kings Cross tube station also appears to impersonate "hell on earth" on
a fairly regular basis - despite all the improvement works. I just hope
the remaining work does something to take some of the pressure off.

It's a farce. Has so much disruption ever before produced so little
improvement?

The West Coast Main Line upgrades ?

Nick
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In message
, at
08:26:52 on Sat, 10 May 2008, TheOneKEA remarked:
I'm curious to know if any hard data exists on how precisely the
ridership on Eurostar has altered as a result of the switch to St.
Pancras.

Eurostar claim that overall ridership is up about 30% with numbers of
passengers form the Midlands doubling.
--
Roland Perry

"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
...
Now that Eurostar has been running the full length of HS1 and has been
serving St. Pancras for a little over five months, who was right?

Did all of the people living in areas reachable from, via or in SW
London who used to go via Waterloo give up and go to Gatwick? Did
swarms of people that once stuffed themselves into the Underground and
Thameslink to get to Waterloo from Euston, KxSTP and Liverpool St now
just walk up to the St. Pancras turnstiles?

All the bally-hoo about the half hour chopped off the London-Paris time is
somewhat moot for those of us who'd travel into Waterloo. That half hour
saved is spent making the unpleasant trip from Waterloo to St Pancras.

Ho hum!

Graculus wrote:
"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
...
Now that Eurostar has been running the full length of HS1 and has
been serving St. Pancras for a little over five months, who was
right? Did all of the people living in areas reachable from, via or in
SW
London who used to go via Waterloo give up and go to Gatwick? Did
swarms of people that once stuffed themselves into the Underground
and Thameslink to get to Waterloo from Euston, KxSTP and Liverpool
St now just walk up to the St. Pancras turnstiles?

All the bally-hoo about the half hour chopped off the London-Paris
time is somewhat moot for those of us who'd travel into Waterloo.
That half hour saved is spent making the unpleasant trip from
Waterloo to St Pancras.

I personally thought they should have kept a Eurostar Waterloo service,
even if only a limited service. But for people going that way it would
certainly save the trek across London. Plus the infrastructure was already
there!

In message , at 04:56:44 on Sun,
11 May 2008, Stephen O'Connell remarked:
All the bally-hoo about the half hour chopped off the London-Paris
time is somewhat moot for those of us who'd travel into Waterloo.
That half hour saved is spent making the unpleasant trip from
Waterloo to St Pancras.

I personally thought they should have kept a Eurostar Waterloo service,
even if only a limited service. But for people going that way it would
certainly save the trek across London. Plus the infrastructure was
already there!

Apparently much of the [station] infrastructure was moved to Ebbsfleet.
And the station was in a poor state requiring refurbishment. It's just
not economic to keep all that stuff, and the staff to operate it,
hanging around for a few trains a day.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 04:56:44 on Sun,
11 May 2008, Stephen O'Connell remarked:
All the bally-hoo about the half hour chopped off the London-Paris
time is somewhat moot for those of us who'd travel into Waterloo.
That half hour saved is spent making the unpleasant trip from
Waterloo to St Pancras.

I personally thought they should have kept a Eurostar Waterloo
service, even if only a limited service. But for people going that
way it would certainly save the trek across London. Plus the
infrastructure was already there!

Apparently much of the [station] infrastructure was moved to
Ebbsfleet. And the station was in a poor state requiring
refurbishment. It's just not economic to keep all that stuff, and the
staff to operate it, hanging around for a few trains a day.

They do it at Ashford Int don't they?!

In message , at 16:52:42 on Sun,
11 May 2008, Stephen O'Connell remarked:
It's just not economic to keep all that stuff, and the
staff to operate it, hanging around for a few trains a day.

They do it at Ashford Int don't they?!

On a much smaller scale. I don't recall them ever having more than a
couple of ticket barriers and one x-ray machine in use, for example.
--
Roland Perry

"Stephen O'Connell" wrote in message
...
Graculus wrote:
"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
...
Now that Eurostar has been running the full length of HS1 and has
been serving St. Pancras for a little over five months, who was
right? Did all of the people living in areas reachable from, via or in
SW
London who used to go via Waterloo give up and go to Gatwick? Did
swarms of people that once stuffed themselves into the Underground
and Thameslink to get to Waterloo from Euston, KxSTP and Liverpool
St now just walk up to the St. Pancras turnstiles?

All the bally-hoo about the half hour chopped off the London-Paris
time is somewhat moot for those of us who'd travel into Waterloo.
That half hour saved is spent making the unpleasant trip from
Waterloo to St Pancras.

I personally thought they should have kept a Eurostar Waterloo service,
even if only a limited service. But for people going that way it would
certainly save the trek across London. Plus the infrastructure was already
there!

I had asked about this earlier, and apparently they had considered
maintaining some services to northern France or to Brussels. Alas, however,
this did not work out.

In article , Graculus
writes
All the bally-hoo about the half hour chopped off the London-Paris time
is somewhat moot for those of us who'd travel into Waterloo. That half
hour saved is spent making the unpleasant trip from Waterloo to St
Pancras.

While for the rest of us, who travelled into King's Cross, we not only
gain half an hour on the main journey, but another half hour not making
the unpleasant trip to the unpleasant Waterloo.

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