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Would those fuzes actually ne fuses?


Yes ... thats the way its spelt...

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On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 10:35:53 +0100 someone who may be tony sayer
wrote this:-

Yes ... thats the way its spelt...


And it is spelt that way in the 1941 Royal Naval Gunnery Handbook
which is somewhere in my house.

This book also gives the truth about claims that it is only members
of the US armed forces who are trained using cartoons, because they
are unable to read. The end of the first chapter shows a sailor
holding a small projectile, hand gun size. This gets larger at the
end of each subsequent chapter. The end of the last chapter shows
the sailor sitting on a very large projectile.

The best of the cartoons to illustrate particular points is the one
with a caption which goes something like, "do not disconnect
electrical circuits". It shows a sailor with a plug in one hand,
which has been withdrawn from a socket. Out of the socket there is a
flash of lightning, which ends on the sailor's nose. The sailor's
hair, hat, arms and legs are flying out at various angles. Given
that ships had DC electrical supplies at the time this advice was
particularly important.


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01:31:15 on Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Mizter T remarked:
One wonders just how many more unexploded wartime bombs might be found
on the Olympic site, in particular in the many waterways that run
through the site.


They won't find any more on land if they've finished digging up the site
and are now building on top.

I wonder if any pile-drivers have ever set off a UXB, though.

The ones in the water will be found if there are any additional dredging
works.
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On 6 Jun, 09:58, Roland Perry wrote:

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01:31:15 on Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Mizter T remarked:

One wonders just how many more unexploded wartime bombs might be found
on the Olympic site, in particular in the many waterways that run
through the site.


They won't find any more on land if they've finished digging up the site
and are now building on top.


Er, whilst I'm not sure on the latest I think the site has now been
cleared but I'm wouldn't think that necessarily precludes more digging
(for foundations etc).


I wonder if any pile-drivers have ever set off a UXB, though.

The ones in the water will be found if there are any additional dredging
works.


I think there's a far bit more work on the waterways both within and
without the Olympic Park site to be done (note that this bomb is
actually outside the boundary of the Park).
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02:47:06 on Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Mizter T remarked:

One wonders just how many more unexploded wartime bombs might be found
on the Olympic site, in particular in the many waterways that run
through the site.


They won't find any more on land if they've finished digging up the site
and are now building on top.


Er, whilst I'm not sure on the latest I think the site has now been
cleared


So they probably won't fin any more on that land

but I'm wouldn't think that necessarily precludes more digging
(for foundations etc).


But they might on that land.

I wonder if any pile-drivers have ever set off a UXB, though.

The ones in the water will be found if there are any additional dredging
works.


I think there's a far bit more work on the waterways both within and
without the Olympic Park site to be done (note that this bomb is
actually outside the boundary of the Park).


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Mizter T writes

A policeman on the local television news yesterday was stressing just
how potentially dangerous this bomb was, a


Are they though ? I understand that TFL must take public safety as
their first priority, but is a 60 year old bomb that's been in the mud
all that time a credible risk ?

I think that trains stopped running and London City airport was
disrupted for a rusty canister full of harmless sludge !

I'd love to know what the military really think about this.

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"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in message
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I'd love to know what the military really think about this.


A deep respect I should imagine!

Survival being a basic human need.

Paul

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In message , Paul Stevenson
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"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in
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I'd love to know what the military really think about this.


A deep respect I should imagine!

Survival being a basic human need.

It's a serious point that all that disruption could have probably been
cured by carting it off on a truck to the nearest dump :-)

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"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote

It's a serious point that all that disruption could have probably been
cured by carting it off on a truck to the nearest dump :-)

But much less than the disruption which would have been caused if someone
had tried that and it went off, doing major damage to the LUL and c2c lines,
as well as to a lot of property over a wide area.

Peter


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In article ,
Paul Stevenson wrote:

"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in message
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I'd love to know what the military really think about this.


A deep respect I should imagine!

Survival being a basic human need.


Quite.

I've no experience regarding UXB (and no wish to gain any)
but a few years ago (up in the north of Norway) a was part
of a group which came across a dump of 2cm AA ammunition
of WW2 vintage, much of which was lying in a stream bed.
I took the RNoN bomb disposal squad down to the site the next
day and they (very carefully) removed the shells, together with
a large number more they found in the boskage - all //very//
carefully.
Day after that, the bomb disposal specialist called to say
the items had been destroyed (cooked off in a furnace, as usual
with small stuff) and that they have been /extremely/ (actually,
he didn't say "extremely", he was more emphatic than that) dangerous.
Much of the propellant was crystalline, which meant that a very
small jolt could have set it off.

A bomb that's been sitting in the ground for 60-plus years could
be much more sensitive to vibration than it originally was.
Explosives can get very unstable in their old age. Not nice.

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