I could hardly believe, last week, when I tried to buy a One Day
Travelcard at my local newsgent, who had sold them for many years,
that they are no longer available there! The equipment, he told me, as
I could see, had been removed and all he can now do is add credit to
Oyster cards, or sell weekly etc. tickets on Oyster.

This is an outrageous scam by T.F.L., which means I now would now lose
£1 credit on my Oyster in order to get a bus to my local station which
is, presumably, the only place I can now buy a One Day Travelcard.
Does anyone know why one can't get a One Day Travelcard on Oyster?

It's funny that bus drivers don't even seem to know that this is now
the case, since my father when he tried bought a ticket on the bus one
morning was told by the driver that it would be cheaper for him to by
a One Day Bus Pass at the same newsagents!

M.M.

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:40:06 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

I could hardly believe, last week, when I tried to buy a One Day
Travelcard at my local newsgent, who had sold them for many years,
that they are no longer available there! The equipment, he told me, as
I could see, had been removed and all he can now do is add credit to
Oyster cards, or sell weekly etc. tickets on Oyster.

This is an outrageous scam by T.F.L., which means I now would now lose
£1 credit on my Oyster in order to get a bus to my local station which
is, presumably, the only place I can now buy a One Day Travelcard.
Does anyone know why one can't get a One Day Travelcard on Oyster?

It's funny that bus drivers don't even seem to know that this is now
the case, since my father when he tried bought a ticket on the bus one
morning was told by the driver that it would be cheaper for him to by
a One Day Bus Pass at the same newsagents!

M.M.

Why do you need a One Day Travelcard?

If you keep using an Oyster card the price is automatically capped at
the cost of a One Day Travelcard. So if you use an Oyster card all
day you will be charged for a One Day Travelcard. If your journey(s)
cost less than that, you will pay less. Far from being an 'outrageous
scam' as you put it this sounds like a great deal for passengers,
especialy if you take into account the convenience factor of not
having to queue up in a newsagent to buy a Travelcard.

The only exception or anomaly is if you are travelling on a train (ie,
not Underground) but I understand this is to be sorted out.

On Jun 28, 4:33�pm, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:40:06 -0700 (PDT), "





wrote:
I could hardly believe, last week, when I tried to buy a One Day
Travelcard at my local newsgent, who had sold them for many years,
that they are no longer available there! The equipment, he told me, as
I could see, had been removed and all he can now do is add credit to
Oyster cards, or sell weekly etc. tickets on Oyster.

This is an outrageous scam by T.F.L., which means I now would now lose
�1 credit on my Oyster in order to get a bus to my local station which
is, presumably, the only place I can now buy a One Day Travelcard.
Does anyone know why one can't get a One Day Travelcard on Oyster?

It's funny that bus drivers don't even seem to know that this is now
the case, since my father when he tried bought a ticket on the bus one
morning was told by the driver that it would be cheaper for him to by
a One Day Bus Pass at the same newsagents!

M.M.

Why do you need a One Day Travelcard?

If you keep using an Oyster card the price is automatically capped at
the cost of a One Day Travelcard. �So if you use an Oyster card all
day you will be charged for a One Day Travelcard. �If your journey(s)
cost less than that, you will pay less. �Far from being an 'outrageous
scam' as you put it this sounds like a great deal for passengers,
especialy if you take into account the convenience factor of not
having to queue up in a newsagent to buy a Travelcard.

The only exception or anomaly is if you are travelling on a train (ie,
not Underground) but I understand this is to be sorted out.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, Scott, you hit the nail on the head: I needed to get to use the
train (Clapham Junction to Waterloo), en route to Maidstone.

Maybe it will be "sorted out", but at the moment it is not. A service
that was once available is no longer available, I am losing money and
T.F.L. are profiting by it, which in my view equates to a scam.

Marc.

On Jun 28, 2:40*pm, " wrote:
I could hardly believe, last week, when I tried to buy a One Day
Travelcard at my local newsgent, who had sold them for many years,
that they are no longer available there! The equipment, he told me, as
I could see, had been removed and all he can now do is add credit to
Oyster cards, or sell weekly etc. tickets on Oyster.

This is an outrageous scam by T.F.L., which means I now would now lose
£1 credit on my Oyster in order to get a bus to my local station which
is, presumably, the only place I can now buy a One Day Travelcard.
Does anyone know why one can't get a One Day Travelcard on Oyster?


Are you sure it is TFL making the decision, the tfl website says that
ticket shops can still sell 1 day travelcards (http://
ticketlocator.tfl.gov.uk/ticket_stop.asp). Maybe the newsagent doesn't
want to sell them anymore due to lack of demand. I don't know whether
the ticket shops have to pay for the kit though.

wrote:
On Jun 28, 4:33�pm, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:40:06 -0700 (PDT), "





wrote:
I could hardly believe, last week, when I tried to buy a One Day
Travelcard at my local newsgent, who had sold them for many years,
that they are no longer available there! The equipment, he told me, as
I could see, had been removed and all he can now do is add credit to
Oyster cards, or sell weekly etc. tickets on Oyster.
This is an outrageous scam by T.F.L., which means I now would now lose
�1 credit on my Oyster in order to get a bus to my local station which
is, presumably, the only place I can now buy a One Day Travelcard.
Does anyone know why one can't get a One Day Travelcard on Oyster?
It's funny that bus drivers don't even seem to know that this is now
the case, since my father when he tried bought a ticket on the bus one
morning was told by the driver that it would be cheaper for him to by
a One Day Bus Pass at the same newsagents!
M.M.
Why do you need a One Day Travelcard?

If you keep using an Oyster card the price is automatically capped at
the cost of a One Day Travelcard. �So if you use an Oyster card all
day you will be charged for a One Day Travelcard. �If your journey(s)
cost less than that, you will pay less. �Far from being an 'outrageous
scam' as you put it this sounds like a great deal for passengers,
especialy if you take into account the convenience factor of not
having to queue up in a newsagent to buy a Travelcard.

The only exception or anomaly is if you are travelling on a train (ie,
not Underground) but I understand this is to be sorted out.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, Scott, you hit the nail on the head: I needed to get to use the
train (Clapham Junction to Waterloo), en route to Maidstone.

Maybe it will be "sorted out", but at the moment it is not. A service
that was once available is no longer available, I am losing money and
T.F.L. are profiting by it, which in my view equates to a scam.

That is an unusual definition of "scam," which according to most
dictionaries necessarily involves some sort of deception. This does not.
I would suggest "profiteering" instead.
--
Michael Hoffman

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:40:44 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Jun 28, 4:33?pm, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:40:06 -0700 (PDT), "





wrote:
I could hardly believe, last week, when I tried to buy a One Day
Travelcard at my local newsgent, who had sold them for many years,
that they are no longer available there! The equipment, he told me, as
I could see, had been removed and all he can now do is add credit to
Oyster cards, or sell weekly etc. tickets on Oyster.

This is an outrageous scam by T.F.L., which means I now would now lose
?1 credit on my Oyster in order to get a bus to my local station which
is, presumably, the only place I can now buy a One Day Travelcard.
Does anyone know why one can't get a One Day Travelcard on Oyster?

It's funny that bus drivers don't even seem to know that this is now
the case, since my father when he tried bought a ticket on the bus one
morning was told by the driver that it would be cheaper for him to by
a One Day Bus Pass at the same newsagents!

M.M.

Why do you need a One Day Travelcard?

If you keep using an Oyster card the price is automatically capped at
the cost of a One Day Travelcard. ?So if you use an Oyster card all
day you will be charged for a One Day Travelcard. ?If your journey(s)
cost less than that, you will pay less. ?Far from being an 'outrageous
scam' as you put it this sounds like a great deal for passengers,
especialy if you take into account the convenience factor of not
having to queue up in a newsagent to buy a Travelcard.

The only exception or anomaly is if you are travelling on a train (ie,
not Underground) but I understand this is to be sorted out.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, Scott, you hit the nail on the head: I needed to get to use the
train (Clapham Junction to Waterloo), en route to Maidstone.

Maybe it will be "sorted out", but at the moment it is not. A service
that was once available is no longer available, I am losing money and
T.F.L. are profiting by it, which in my view equates to a scam.

Marc.

Would it not be cheaper to buy a (National) Rail ticket from Clapham
Junction to Maidstone and change at Victoria plus your bus fares,
rather than One Day Travelcard plus rail ticket from Victoria?

A quick look at National Rail Enquires suggests the fare from Victoria
is £14.60 and the fare from Clapham Junction is £15.60.

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:40:06 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

I could hardly believe, last week, when I tried to buy a One Day
Travelcard at my local newsgent, who had sold them for many years,
that they are no longer available there! The equipment, he told me, as
I could see, had been removed and all he can now do is add credit to
Oyster cards, or sell weekly etc. tickets on Oyster.

This is an outrageous scam by T.F.L., which means I now would now lose
£1 credit on my Oyster in order to get a bus to my local station which
is, presumably, the only place I can now buy a One Day Travelcard.
Does anyone know why one can't get a One Day Travelcard on Oyster?

It's funny that bus drivers don't even seem to know that this is now
the case, since my father when he tried bought a ticket on the bus one
morning was told by the driver that it would be cheaper for him to by
a One Day Bus Pass at the same newsagents!

It is not a scam and there's no need for the hyperbole.

TfL are switching over the ticket issuing equipment to one which deals
with Oyster but cannot print tickets. For those ticket products which
would ordinarily be printed TfL are now using pre-encoded ticket stock
which the agent has to date stamp. I would imagine the agent you used
has not understood whatever TfL / Transys have said to him. He should
have suitable ticket stock and equipment to issue the whole range of
tickets that are retailed from whatever type of "ticket stop" he is.
There may be a glitch in the handover arrangements but there is not some
"money grabbing" scam going on. TfL are doubling the number of agents
and to do this and put Oyster into all of them different technology to
the old Pass Agent Terminal is required.

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Scott wrote:


Why do you need a One Day Travelcard?

The only exception or anomaly is if you are travelling on a train (ie,
not Underground) but I understand this is to be sorted out.

That would be why then.

mf

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:33:33 +0100, Mystery Flyer
wrote:

Scott wrote:


Why do you need a One Day Travelcard?

The only exception or anomaly is if you are travelling on a train (ie,
not Underground) but I understand this is to be sorted out.

That would be why then.

mf

Well spotted Sherlock.

"Scott" wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:40:06 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

I could hardly believe, last week, when I tried to buy a One Day
Travelcard at my local newsgent, who had sold them for many years,
that they are no longer available there! The equipment, he told me, as
I could see, had been removed and all he can now do is add credit to
Oyster cards, or sell weekly etc. tickets on Oyster.

This is an outrageous scam by T.F.L., which means I now would now lose
£1 credit on my Oyster in order to get a bus to my local station which
is, presumably, the only place I can now buy a One Day Travelcard.
Does anyone know why one can't get a One Day Travelcard on Oyster?

It's funny that bus drivers don't even seem to know that this is now
the case, since my father when he tried bought a ticket on the bus one
morning was told by the driver that it would be cheaper for him to by
a One Day Bus Pass at the same newsagents!

M.M.

Why do you need a One Day Travelcard?

Because you are going on National Rail.

Probably about 50% of people have to do this each day.

tim