Jon Green wrote:
HE Elsom wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:53:49 +0100, magwitch wrote:

Using an aeroplane to get to Newquay and back makes you little better
than one in my eyes. What about taking a train?

I have no money, the flight was free and it was important for me to
see someone there. I hope that meets your moral standards.

Look at it another way: the extra fuel burnt from the additional weight
of you and your baggage, since the plane was going to fly that route
anyway, was miniscule. You could probably offset it by growing a couple
of rows of carrots.

Ever tried growing a couple of rows of carrots Jon?

Not a point of view that's popular amongst eco-warriors, because it
reduces them to "*grumble* Shouldn't have a plane on that route anyway
*grumble, mumble*".

Jon


All I can say is that during the '50s '60s and '70s people managed to
get to Devon or Cornwall for lovely holidays and the 4–6 hour car or
train journey was all part of the fun.

Just as the 5-day trip my college friend and I took down to Portugal to
stay with some family friends there. 30 years later, I remember
travelling through France and Spain in our clapped-out Hillman Frog-eye
Sprite far better than the ensuing 4 week holiday in Portugal itself.

In message , at 12:31:18 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:
All I can say is that during the '50s '60s and '70s people managed to
get to Devon or Cornwall for lovely holidays and the 4–6 hour car or
train journey was all part of the fun.

I remember going down there by car pre-motorways, via the infamous
Honiton Bypass etc, and it wasn't much fun. Nor was it 4-6 hours!!
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:31:18 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:
All I can say is that during the '50s '60s and '70s people managed to
get to Devon or Cornwall for lovely holidays and the 4–6 hour car or
train journey was all part of the fun.

I remember going down there by car pre-motorways, via the infamous
Honiton Bypass etc, and it wasn't much fun. Nor was it 4-6 hours!!

Well as the irishman said that would depend where you started your
journey (or something).

We used to go via Winchester, past Stonehenge on the A303 in the car,
the train was wonderful, especially when you got to Dawlish and went
beside the beach, very exciting to see the sea right next to you.

On the way back we used to stop at the East Meon pub for fish and chips.
Nowadays, I suppose children would implode with boredom of the arduous
journey and it would permanently scar their psychology or something.

In message , at 13:00:43 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:

All I can say is that during the '50s '60s and '70s people managed
to get to Devon or Cornwall for lovely holidays and the 4–6
hour car or train journey was all part of the fun.
I remember going down there by car pre-motorways, via the infamous
Honiton Bypass etc, and it wasn't much fun. Nor was it 4-6 hours!!

Well as the irishman said that would depend where you started your
journey (or something).

You are starting near Newmarket I think, and I was starting near
Chelmsford. So not much difference really.

It's around 300 miles and in those days you could average 30mph if you
were lucky. So set off at crack of dawn and get there by supper time
(allowing for breaks).

Nowadays, I suppose children would implode with boredom of the arduous
journey and it would permanently scar their psychology or something.

It takes about half of the time as back then, and they have all sorts of
gadgets to amuse themselves. So "not really".
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:00:43 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:

All I can say is that during the '50s '60s and '70s people managed
to get to Devon or Cornwall for lovely holidays and the 4–6
hour car or train journey was all part of the fun.
I remember going down there by car pre-motorways, via the infamous
Honiton Bypass etc, and it wasn't much fun. Nor was it 4-6 hours!!

Well as the irishman said that would depend where you started your
journey (or something).

You are starting near Newmarket I think, and I was starting near
Chelmsford. So not much difference really.

It's around 300 miles and in those days you could average 30mph if you
were lucky. So set off at crack of dawn and get there by supper time
(allowing for breaks).

Nowadays, I suppose children would implode with boredom of the arduous
journey and it would permanently scar their psychology or something.

It takes about half of the time as back then, and they have all sorts of
gadgets to amuse themselves. So "not really".

No I was starting from 20 miles north of Winchester at the time about
150 miles further west and another 70 miles south from Chelmsford. I
said it used to take 4 for Devon and 6 hours for Cornwall from there and
was accurate.

In message , at 14:38:45 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:
No I was starting from 20 miles north of Winchester at the time about
150 miles further west and another 70 miles south from Chelmsford. I
said it used to take 4 for Devon and 6 hours for Cornwall from there
and was accurate.

But hardly on topic for a Cambridge/London audience (see NGs posted to).
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:38:45 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:
No I was starting from 20 miles north of Winchester at the time about
150 miles further west and another 70 miles south from Chelmsford. I
said it used to take 4 for Devon and 6 hours for Cornwall from there
and was accurate.

But hardly on topic for a Cambridge/London audience (see NGs posted to).


Yes it is. We'll be living under a short-haul holding stack and
flightpath in the near future. And Londoners will be enjoying their
third Heathrow runway. Very ON topic actually.

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:31:18 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:
All I can say is that during the '50s '60s and '70s people managed to
get to Devon or Cornwall for lovely holidays and the 4–6 hour car or
train journey was all part of the fun.

I remember going down there by car pre-motorways, via the infamous
Honiton Bypass etc, and it wasn't much fun. Nor was it 4-6 hours!!

It's not six hours to Cornwall even now! (At least, not if you keep to
the speed limits and don't try to do it in one shift.) You'd be lucky
to make it to the Devon border from Cambridge in four hours - Multimap
reckons 4'24" even on modern roads, and that doesn't reckon in rest stops.

Jon
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Jon Green wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:31:18 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:
All I can say is that during the '50s '60s and '70s people managed to
get to Devon or Cornwall for lovely holidays and the 4–6 hour car
or train journey was all part of the fun.

I remember going down there by car pre-motorways, via the infamous
Honiton Bypass etc, and it wasn't much fun. Nor was it 4-6 hours!!

It's not six hours to Cornwall even now! (At least, not if you keep to
the speed limits and don't try to do it in one shift.) You'd be lucky
to make it to the Devon border from Cambridge in four hours - Multimap
reckons 4'24" even on modern roads, and that doesn't reckon in rest stops.

Jon

We used to live 20 miles north of Winchester... I mean (gosh) if you
were travelling to Cornwall from the outer Hebrides it might even take
you 3 or 4 days.

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:04:51 +0100, Jon Green
wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:31:18 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:
All I can say is that during the '50s '60s and '70s people managed to
get to Devon or Cornwall for lovely holidays and the 4–6 hour car or
train journey was all part of the fun.

I remember going down there by car pre-motorways, via the infamous
Honiton Bypass etc, and it wasn't much fun. Nor was it 4-6 hours!!

It's not six hours to Cornwall even now! (At least, not if you keep to
the speed limits and don't try to do it in one shift.) You'd be lucky
to make it to the Devon border from Cambridge in four hours - Multimap
reckons 4'24" even on modern roads, and that doesn't reckon in rest stops.

Four minutes twenty-four seconds?!?!?!

Linda ff