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Peter Campbell Smith wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:
And in the area just outside London that is still covered by TfL
(like Amersham is), Epsom Downs has only one train an hour. Now
*that's* poor service.


"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote:
What is there around Epsom Downs that's covered by TfL?


John B wrote
Buses, IIRC.


Not many of those. However, though outside Gtr London, the station
is in the TfL-defined zone 6, as is the nearby(ish) Tattenham Corner.
Belmont station is on the Epsom Downs line and is in TfL territory.

Despite covering prime commuter territory, the Epsom Downs line is not
popular, perhaps because its trains take the long route via West
Croydon. The line was singled in the 80s when its signal box burned
down, limiting the capacity (though it could manage a half-hourly
service if it tried).

In its heyday it had a dozen or so platforms - mainly used only on
race days.


That was a different station, slightly further southwest.


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Peter Campbell Smith wrote:

Despite covering prime commuter territory, the Epsom Downs line is not
popular, perhaps because its trains take the long route via West Croydon.


It's also not in the best of locations to accumulate commuters. And there
isn't an "Epsom stations" fare option so it's not a valid alternative
destination for people with Epsom season tickets. Compared to the much
greater number of trains and destinations at Epsom and naturally many
commuters opt for there (including myself when I commuted to school despite
living closer to Epsom Downs).


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Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:

David Cantrell wrote:

And in the area just outside London that is still covered by TfL (like
Amersham is), Epsom Downs has only one train an hour. Now *that's* poor
service.


What is there around Epsom Downs that's covered by TfL?


The station (and Banstead) is in zone 6 for Travelcards. (Belmont is in
London and has just the one train an hour) Also no trains on Sundays.

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Mark Bestley wrote:

And in the area just outside London that is still covered by TfL (like
Amersham is), Epsom Downs has only one train an hour. Now *that's*
poor
service.


What is there around Epsom Downs that's covered by TfL?


The station (and Banstead) is in zone 6 for Travelcards. (Belmont is in
London and has just the one train an hour) Also no trains on Sundays.


Yes but being in the zones isn't really "covered by TfL" in my book - they
don't run the service (although wasn't there talk of the branch being
coverted to tram?) and I don't think the buses round there are in Zone 6.


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Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:

Mark Bestley wrote:

And in the area just outside London that is still covered by TfL (like
Amersham is), Epsom Downs has only one train an hour. Now *that's*
poor
service.


What is there around Epsom Downs that's covered by TfL?


The station (and Banstead) is in zone 6 for Travelcards. (Belmont is in
London and has just the one train an hour) Also no trains on Sundays.


Yes but being in the zones isn't really "covered by TfL" in my book - they
don't run the service (although wasn't there talk of the branch being
coverted to tram?) and I don't think the buses round there are in Zone 6.


The busses (166) are covered by all zones travelcards and Oyster as are
many sections outside greater London.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...kets-and-PAYG-
on-buses-outside-London-08-01-02.pdf

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On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 04:49:18PM +0100, Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:
And in the area just outside London that is still covered by TfL (like
Amersham is), Epsom Downs has only one train an hour. Now *that's* poor
service.

What is there around Epsom Downs that's covered by TfL?


It's in zone 6. The 166 bus passes about 300 yards away to both the
east and west, and 600 yards away to the south.

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gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

Just been reading on Wikipedia that Amersham might be going down to
having just two trains an hour? Is that not a really poor service?


Not really, because you can use the Chiltern Service. The last time I
was on an Amersham train during the day, it wasn't very full.


Out of interest how much does a single from Amersham to Zone 1 cost?


£5.50 daytime Oyster, £8.20 off-peak ODTC, £15 peak ODTC.


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