On Aug 1, 5:55*pm, Chris Tolley wrote:
wrote:
Does anyone know what London tube stock is going to be stored there?

Precedent might suggest that it will be whatever is destined for the
Isle of Wight in about 2050.

Don't joke! I couldn't believe the way in which the 1938 stock's
bodywork has deteriorated in the past few years - huge patches of rust
right the way along the solebar and over the roof. The refurbishment
and repaint looks very pretty, but you really get the feeling they're
papering (or painting!) over the cracks...

Remind me again - why couldn't they send the old Jubilee stock to the
Island, or tack on an order for (say) 8 2-car units to the end of the
Victoria Line production run?

Rupert Candy wrote:
On Aug 1, 5:55 pm, Chris Tolley wrote:
wrote:
Does anyone know what London tube stock is going to be stored there?

Precedent might suggest that it will be whatever is destined for the
Isle of Wight in about 2050.

Don't joke! I couldn't believe the way in which the 1938 stock's
bodywork has deteriorated in the past few years - huge patches of rust
right the way along the solebar and over the roof. The refurbishment
and repaint looks very pretty, but you really get the feeling they're
papering (or painting!) over the cracks...

Remind me again - why couldn't they send the old Jubilee stock to the
Island, or tack on an order for (say) 8 2-car units to the end of the
Victoria Line production run?

Probably the effect of sea spray on modern underfloor electronics while
trundling along Ryde Pier. See Voyagers and Dawlish for similar problems...

Paul

On Aug 1, 8:35*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Rupert Candy wrote:
Remind me again - why couldn't they send the old Jubilee stock to the
Island, or tack on an order for (say) 8 2-car units to the end of the
Victoria Line production run?

Probably the effect of sea spray on modern underfloor electronics while
trundling along Ryde Pier. *See Voyagers and Dawlish for similar problems...

I suppose so, though Portsmouth Harbour doesn't seem to have scuttled
the Desiros yet...

Rupert Candy wrote:
On Aug 1, 8:35 pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Rupert Candy wrote:
Remind me again - why couldn't they send the old Jubilee stock to
the Island, or tack on an order for (say) 8 2-car units to the end
of the Victoria Line production run?

Probably the effect of sea spray on modern underfloor electronics
while trundling along Ryde Pier. See Voyagers and Dawlish for
similar problems...

I suppose so, though Portsmouth Harbour doesn't seem to have scuttled
the Desiros yet...

I don't think waves ever reach track level in the harbour station though...

Paul

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Rupert Candy wrote:

On Aug 1, 8:35*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Rupert Candy wrote:
Remind me again - why couldn't they send the old Jubilee stock to the
Island, or tack on an order for (say) 8 2-car units to the end of the
Victoria Line production run?

Probably the effect of sea spray on modern underfloor electronics while
trundling along Ryde Pier. *See Voyagers and Dawlish for similar
problems...

I suppose so, though Portsmouth Harbour doesn't seem to have scuttled
the Desiros yet...

Portsmouth Harbour is very well sheltered compared with the other locations.
You don't get a lot of spray there.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

I suppose so, though Portsmouth Harbour doesn't seem to have scuttled
the Desiros yet...

But underside sea spray proofing might have bene in the spec - whereas
this would not have been a '83 stock requirement.

--
Nick

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(D7666) wrote:

I suppose so, though Portsmouth Harbour doesn't seem to have
scuttled the Desiros yet...

But underside sea spray proofing might have bene in the spec -
whereas this would not have been a '83 stock requirement.

I thought the problem was that even working vaguely reliably wasn't in
the 1983TS spec?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Aug 1, 8:30 pm, Rupert Candy wrote:

Remind me again - why couldn't they send the old Jubilee stock to the
Island,

Urban legend reputes underside electronics too exposed to sea water on
the pier.

I find that one hard to beleive it was a blocking point. I can
understand it might be a factor but given the age of '83 stock at
withdrawal, that they could have been acquired at scrap value with
oodles of spares, I'd suggest costs of relocating or sealing or
replacing that equipment would show a saving over unit whole life.


or tack on an order for (say) 8 2-car units to the end of the
Victoria Line production run?

I'm usually shot down whenever I suggest new stock for the IOW.

My favourite plan remains Siemens Avanto tram/trains for both
Lymington and IOW.

--
Nick

On Aug 1, 9:04*pm, D7666 wrote:

I'm usually shot down whenever I suggest new stock for the IOW.

My favourite plan remains Siemens Avanto tram/trains for both
Lymington and IOW.

I couldn't agree more - though (given that wretched tunnel) they'd
either need street running along Ryde Esplanade or to persuade Siemens
to produce a limited run of tube-profiled units. Though I suppose they
might sell some to Berlin.

"Rupert Candy" wrote in message
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On Aug 1, 9:04 pm, D7666 wrote:

I'm usually shot down whenever I suggest new stock for the IOW.

My favourite plan remains Siemens Avanto tram/trains for both
Lymington and IOW.

I couldn't agree more - though (given that wretched tunnel) they'd
either need street running along Ryde Esplanade or to persuade Siemens
to produce a limited run of tube-profiled units. Though I suppose they
might sell some to Berlin.

Aren't Siemens tendering for the new Piccadilly Line stock?