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"Roland Perry" wrote

As you say, it can happen on some "grandfather rights" rural routes. I
was on a 5-car train a week ago that stopped at two stations with only
room for 3-cars. The way they organised it was for the guard to make
several announcements and walk through the train, and then *only* open
the door at the very front of the train by the driver's cab.

In slam door days there were three options:
1 - Guard goes through train and moves passengers who wish to alight at a
short platform, so that they are in a coach which will be adjacent to the
platform.
2 - Front of train stops at platform, then train draws up to get next
portion by the platform. I've been on a train which drew up twice to let one
passenger alight at Duncraig.
3 - Passengers climb down to track level. I've done this at Culrain, and at
Corrour, when the Saturday evening train used to have a 6 coach seats and
sleeper portion for London, plus a 6 coach portion for Glasgow. I alighted
somewhere in the vicinity of the loop points.

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"Peter Masson" wrote in message
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In slam door days there were three options:


4 - everybody just got onto the right carriage in the first place, as per
the notices and announcements at the point of embarkation - "front two
coaches for x" etc.

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In message , at 12:12:36 on Sun, 3
Aug 2008, Tim Ward remarked:
In slam door days there were three options:


4 - everybody just got onto the right carriage in the first place, as per
the notices and announcements at the point of embarkation - "front two
coaches for x" etc.


That's usually because the trains split, rather than a short platform.
For some reason this is regarded as less passenger-unfriendly than only
opening half the doors, presumably because at the station where the
train splits there's the ability to change units if it turns out you are
the wrong one.

Perhaps one of the options for the Cambridge trains is to run fast to
Letchworth then split into 8 & 4 car units. One running fast to
Cambridge and the other becoming an all station stopper.

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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:17:47 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote this gibberish:

In message , at 12:12:36 on Sun, 3
Aug 2008, Tim Ward remarked:
In slam door days there were three options:


4 - everybody just got onto the right carriage in the first place, as per
the notices and announcements at the point of embarkation - "front two
coaches for x" etc.


That's usually because the trains split, rather than a short platform.
For some reason this is regarded as less passenger-unfriendly than only
opening half the doors, presumably because at the station where the
train splits there's the ability to change units if it turns out you are
the wrong one.

Perhaps one of the options for the Cambridge trains is to run fast to
Letchworth then split into 8 & 4 car units. One running fast to
Cambridge and the other becoming an all station stopper.


One of the trains I take fairly often splits and even with many many
announcements there are always people swapping at the station where
the train splits (haywards heath).
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"Tim Ward" wrote in message
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"Peter Masson" wrote in message
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In slam door days there were three options:


4 - everybody just got onto the right carriage in the first place, as per
the notices and announcements at the point of embarkation - "front two
coaches for x" etc.


That was my thought.

It seems that for the price of a bit of selective switchgear the problem of
overcrowding and under-capacity could be significantly reduced.

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On 3 Aug, 12:00, "Peter Masson" wrote:

3 - Passengers climb down to track level. I've done this at Culrain, and at
Corrour, when the Saturday evening train used to have a 6 coach seats and
sleeper portion for London, plus a 6 coach portion for Glasgow. I alighted
somewhere in the vicinity of the loop points.


On a recent trip on the IoMR the one passenger for Ronaldsway climbed
down to track level and walked back to the "platform".

Ian
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