Richard J. wrote:

But you actually went on to say ...

the evidence is that traffic lights make things worse

So, if they make things worse, what do you think their useful purpose is?

Traffic lights can, if used sensibly, alleviate problems at some
interchanges and serve a useful function in ramp metering. They are not
a universal panacea but that is how they have been treated by the lazy
and incompetent.

On 17 Aug, 21:53, (Steve Firth) wrote:
Richard J. wrote:
But you actually went on to say ...

the evidence is that traffic lights make things worse

So, if they make things worse, what do you think their useful purpose is?

Traffic lights can, if used sensibly, alleviate problems at some
interchanges and serve a useful function in ramp metering. They are not
a universal panacea but that is how they have been treated by the lazy
and incompetent.

I find them useful because they make motorists drive in convoys with
gaps between the convoys where people can cross the road without fear
of being killed. The alternative seems to be an endless stream of
traffic which makes crossing the road virtually impossible or else
means waiting a long, long time.

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Doug gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

(Of traffic lights)

I find them useful because they make motorists drive in convoys with
gaps between the convoys where people can cross the road without fear of
being killed. The alternative seems to be an endless stream of traffic
which makes crossing the road virtually impossible or else means waiting
a long, long time.

Aren't cyclists "traffic", then?

Adrian wrote:
Doug gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

(Of traffic lights)

I find them useful because they make motorists drive in convoys with
gaps between the convoys where people can cross the road without fear of
being killed. The alternative seems to be an endless stream of traffic
which makes crossing the road virtually impossible or else means waiting
a long, long time.

Aren't cyclists "traffic", then?

Cyclists ignore traffic lights so by Duhg's method if you start to cross
when the cars have all gone you get run down by a cyclist.

--
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?

You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin

Doug wrote:

I find them useful because they make motorists drive in convoys

Oh indeed we all know that your concept is that anything that
inconveniences the motorist must be a good thing.

In message , at 21:53:25 on
Sun, 17 Aug 2008, Steve Firth remarked:

They are not a universal panacea

Non-universal panaceas can be extremely unique.
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Roland Perry