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JNugent wrote:
Brimstone wrote: I used the Westway in both directions yesterday and noticed no diminuation in traffic capacity compared to their previous status. In fact the only change I saw was in the designation and numbering of the road and the consequent alteration in the direction sign colour. What is your evidence that there has been any such diminuation? Is there any point to your ranting other than to poitlessly and unjustifiably castigate Livingstone? Have you seen the former M41 (with nearly half the road space snaffled for other purposes)? I know of no road, either now nor previously, designated as the "M41". Have you not seen the reduction of the speed limit on the former A102(M) (now plain A102 south of the river and A12 north of it? I haven't been to that area for very many years. |
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Brimstone wrote:
JNugent wrote: Brimstone wrote: I used the Westway in both directions yesterday and noticed no diminuation in traffic capacity compared to their previous status. In fact the only change I saw was in the designation and numbering of the road and the consequent alteration in the direction sign colour. What is your evidence that there has been any such diminuation? Is there any point to your ranting other than to poitlessly and unjustifiably castigate Livingstone? Have you seen the former M41 (with nearly half the road space snaffled for other purposes)? I know of no road, either now nor previously, designated as the "M41". It's the A3220 West Cross Route at Shepherd's Bush. It's been reduced from three to two lanes in each direction, so "nearly half" is an exaggeration. It doesn't seem to have affected capacity or journey times, which depend on the roundabouts at each end. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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"Brimstone" wrote in message
... JNugent wrote: Brimstone wrote: I used the Westway in both directions yesterday and noticed no diminuation in traffic capacity compared to their previous status. In fact the only change I saw was in the designation and numbering of the road and the consequent alteration in the direction sign colour. What is your evidence that there has been any such diminuation? Is there any point to your ranting other than to poitlessly and unjustifiably castigate Livingstone? Have you seen the former M41 (with nearly half the road space snaffled for other purposes)? I know of no road, either now nor previously, designated as the "M41". It's the short spur (probably only about a mile) from the A40 southwards to Shepherd's Bush roundabout. |
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Mortimer wrote:
Shepherd's Bush roundabout. Holland Park Roundabout! |
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"John Rowland" wrote in message
... Mortimer wrote: Shepherd's Bush roundabout. Holland Park Roundabout! Oh, is it called Holland Park roundabout? I always thought it was called SB roundabout, since it's only a hundred yards or so from SB shopping centre - the one which used to have a huge cutout of an HST on either side of the footbridge - and SB Common and SB LT and NR stations. But you're right: I've just checked on Multimap. I stand corrected! |
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John Rowland wrote:
Mortimer wrote: Shepherd's Bush roundabout. Holland Park Roundabout! Indeed, I'd always heard it referred to as Shepherd's Bush roundabout. |
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Brimstone wrote:
John Rowland wrote: Mortimer wrote: Shepherd's Bush roundabout. Holland Park Roundabout! Indeed, I'd always heard it referred to as Shepherd's Bush roundabout. Ditto. |
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Mortimer wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in message ... JNugent wrote: Brimstone wrote: I used the Westway in both directions yesterday and noticed no diminuation in traffic capacity compared to their previous status. In fact the only change I saw was in the designation and numbering of the road and the consequent alteration in the direction sign colour. What is your evidence that there has been any such diminuation? Is there any point to your ranting other than to poitlessly and unjustifiably castigate Livingstone? Have you seen the former M41 (with nearly half the road space snaffled for other purposes)? I know of no road, either now nor previously, designated as the "M41". It's the short spur (probably only about a mile) from the A40 southwards to Shepherd's Bush roundabout. I thought it was the A41(M). Thanks for the correction. |
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Brimstone wrote:
Mortimer wrote: "Brimstone" wrote: JNugent wrote: Brimstone wrote: I used the Westway in both directions yesterday and noticed no diminuation in traffic capacity compared to their previous status. In fact the only change I saw was in the designation and numbering of the road and the consequent alteration in the direction sign colour. What is your evidence that there has been any such diminuation? Is there any point to your ranting other than to poitlessly and unjustifiably castigate Livingstone? Have you seen the former M41 (with nearly half the road space snaffled for other purposes)? I know of no road, either now nor previously, designated as the "M41". It's the short spur (probably only about a mile) from the A40 southwards to Shepherd's Bush roundabout. I thought it was the A41(M). Thanks for the correction. There *was* an A41(M) elsewhere - in the line of the A41, bypassing Tring. It was opened to traffic (IIRC) in the mid-1970s. It too was later downgraded, along with the plans for a motorway from NW London out through N Bucks (the same M41 which passed from Shepherds Bush to the Westway flyoiver). The norhern sretch of that road was presumably abandoned because of the decision to contruct the M40 through to the Midlands instead, though a new stretch of A41 was built from the Hemel area through to somewhere near Aylesbury. The former Tring bypass motorway was incorprated into it - you can easily tell when you are on that bit. |
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