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Default TfL Admits Livingstone Regime Deliberately Obstructed Traffic Flows

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:32:13 +0100, "John Rowland"
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I would have built a new 2+2 road from Wood Lane to Holland Park roundabout
through the development site, and linked the access roads to that. I would
then have made the west side of the green two-way, opened the bus-only cut
through on the east side of the green to all traffic, made the connection
from the green to the roundabout bus/taxi/cycle only, probably one lane each
way. This would make the green into a nice place to sunbathe or shop.


Ah yes, a scheme to drag the Bush from its lowly status of poundshops,
fast food shops and hangout for inebriated persons to a higher plane
of niceness. Methinks it would be fought by Hamm council who never did
much for this area, and fought by the green-clad monster next door
which won't want retail competition outside its control. Lose shopping
centre space to a 2+2 road to improve the green to the south and try
to cure the eternal traffic jam? Madness!

As for accommodating road traffic for the Westfield, isn't it going to
be a Bluewater at peak times anyway? Despite the PT options, the sheer
size can only pay for itself by sucking in traffic from the wealthy
west of London. Crazy place for such a big centre really. The main
dosh as far as I can see will be from the Beeb employees next door,
and they're going to be purged further by banishment to Salford. White
City estates probably won't be the W's main savour. Peeps on tubes
usually don't carry 20 bags of goodies home.
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On Aug 20, 10:03 am, Colum Mylod wrote:
As for accommodating road traffic for the Westfield, isn't it going to
be a Bluewater at peak times anyway? Despite the PT options, the sheer
size can only pay for itself by sucking in traffic from the wealthy
west of London. Crazy place for such a big centre really. The main
dosh as far as I can see will be from the Beeb employees next door,
and they're going to be purged further by banishment to Salford. White
City estates probably won't be the W's main savour. Peeps on tubes
usually don't carry 20 bags of goodies home.


I thought the idea was to be a less unbearable version of Oxford
Street, from which peeps on Tubes frequently carry many, if not 20,
bags of goodies home.

You may well be right that that's a special case and that people won't
be willing to do the same thing 10 minutes further west, though.

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