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Nick Leverton wrote:
AIUI motorways don't come under the ordinary traffic regulations but have their own special legal status, which at the time didn't allow traffic to be excluded from particular lanes. Really? So how come trucks were banned from using the outside lane on motorways with three or more lanes? |
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Steve Firth wrote: Nick Leverton wrote: AIUI motorways don't come under the ordinary traffic regulations but have their own special legal status, which at the time didn't allow traffic to be excluded from particular lanes. Really? So how come trucks were banned from using the outside lane on motorways with three or more lanes? Not my area of expertise nor of interest, sorry. I'm sure you can look the regs up if you're interested to know what the precise reason was ... Nick -- Serendipity: http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (last update 9th August 2008) "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life" -- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996 |
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Nick Leverton wrote:
In article , Steve Firth wrote: Nick Leverton wrote: AIUI motorways don't come under the ordinary traffic regulations but have their own special legal status, which at the time didn't allow traffic to be excluded from particular lanes. Really? So how come trucks were banned from using the outside lane on motorways with three or more lanes? Not my area of expertise nor of interest, sorry. I'm sure you can look the regs up if you're interested to know what the precise reason was ... You don't need an area of expertise, jsut a grasp of logic. You're saying that the motorway regs didn't permit the exclusion of traffic (I suspect you mean "classes of vehicles") from particualar lanes. However it's clear that vehicles were excluded from particular lanes. Hence your statement was incorrect. |
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Steve Firth wrote: You don't need an area of expertise, jsut a grasp of logic. You're saying that the motorway regs didn't permit the exclusion of traffic (I suspect you mean "classes of vehicles") from particualar lanes. However it's clear that vehicles were excluded from particular lanes. Hence your statement was incorrect. Observe how much I care about your unsupported opinion on my accuracy: There, did you spot it ? Nick -- Serendipity: http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (last update 9th August 2008) "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life" -- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996 |
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Nick Leverton wrote:
There, did you spot it ? Yes, you cared enough to flounce, **** and moan. |
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Steve Firth wrote: Nick Leverton wrote: There, did you spot it ? Yes, you cared enough to flounce, **** and moan. Looks like I hit a nerve with my flippancy. My sincere apologies for any offence caused. I'm sure we all look forwards to your well researched and factually based explanation of the motorway regulations. Nick -- Serendipity: http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (last update 9th August 2008) "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life" -- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996 |
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Nick Leverton wrote:
In article , Steve Firth wrote: Nick Leverton wrote: There, did you spot it ? Yes, you cared enough to flounce, **** and moan. Looks like I hit a nerve with my flippancy. Posting complete crap, as you did, and being corrected on it, as you were, is not "hitting a nerve". My sincere apologies for any offence caused. You didn't cause any offence, I'm laughing at you. I'm sure we all look forwards to your well researched and factually based explanation of the motorway regulations. You're the one claiming to know the motorway "regulations" with your fallacious claim that classes of vehicles could not be banned from particular lanes. Despite it being obvious to the world and his dog that HGVs had been banned from the outside lane for four decades before the introduction of motorway bus lanes. You're also the one too dumb to know how proof works. It's your claim, you support it. Don't expect others to do your homework for you. |
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Nick Leverton wrote:
Steve Firth wrote: Nick Leverton wrote: AIUI motorways don't come under the ordinary traffic regulations but have their own special legal status, which at the time didn't allow traffic to be excluded from particular lanes. Really? So how come trucks were banned from using the outside lane on motorways with three or more lanes? Not my area of expertise nor of interest, sorry. I'm sure you can look the regs up if you're interested to know what the precise reason was ... The reason it was done*, in this context, isn't as important as how it was done. Either there there were regulations allowing it in the early sixties**, or there weren't. [* To prevent large and/or slow-moving vehicles from clogging all the lanes at once - which was starting to happen.] [** For that is when the third lane ban for lorries came in - 1960s.] |
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In article , JNugent wrote:
Nick Leverton wrote: Not my area of expertise nor of interest, sorry. I'm sure you can look the regs up if you're interested to know what the precise reason was ... The reason it was done*, in this context, isn't as important as how it was done. Either there there were regulations allowing it in the early sixties**, or there weren't. [* To prevent large and/or slow-moving vehicles from clogging all the lanes at once - which was starting to happen.] [** For that is when the third lane ban for lorries came in - 1960s.] For sure. IIRC the Highway Code has pointers to applicable legislation for those of its clauses which are legal requirements. You might find that to be of help in your research. In the meantime, my statement may have been correct and your understanding of the legal situation incomplete, or perhaps my understanding was incomplete, or perhaps I was plain wrong, but logic alone will not provide the answer as to which, let alone why. I wish you luck in your quest to find someone who is bothered enough about it to research the answer as to why lorries could be banned from some lanes in the 1960s but cars had to wait until 30 or 40 years later to gain equal rights in that respect. Nick -- Serendipity: http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (last update 9th August 2008) "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life" -- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996 |
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Nick Leverton wrote:
I wish you luck in your quest to find someone who is bothered enough about it to research the answer as to why lorries could be banned from some lanes in the 1960s but cars had to wait until 30 or 40 years later to gain equal rights in that respect. Have you always had difficulty admiting that you are wrong? |
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