D7666 wrote:
On Aug 23, 4:51 pm, "John Rowland"
wrote:

Did i miss Chatham being built on a mountainside?

It's a cut-price Schwebebahn.


Eh ?

How is a Schwebebahn a cut down cableway ?

I didn't say it was, I said a cableway is a cut price Schwebebahn.
The reason I made the comparison is that the Schwebebahn exists because of
the River Wupper, and I suspect that the cableway is being planned for
Chatham because of the Medway

Thats a bit like saying a footpath is a cutdown travolator

Well, it is.

- the two
are different applications using different systems for different
reasons.

And yet, one of the cost reductions in St Pancras Thameslink involved
replacing the planned travolator to the tube with.... a footpath.

On Aug 26, 9:12 am, "John Rowland"
wrote:

OK I see what you mean.

Chatham because of the Medway

But surely even then the schebebahn runs *along* the course of the
river but cablecars tend to go across things ?

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Nick

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, D7666 wrote:

On Aug 26, 9:12 am, "John Rowland"
wrote:

OK I see what you mean.

Chatham because of the Medway

But surely even then the schebebahn runs *along* the course of the
river but cablecars tend to go across things ?

Cablecars tend to go *up* things. Are there any that are built in the
complete absence of a steep slope? By 'complete absence', i mean without a
slope anywhere along; Barcelona's, for example, is on the level between
the foot of Montjuic and the port, but it's there because there's a big
slope from the foot of Montjuic to the top of Montjuic.

Anyway, my reading was that John was being somewhat silly. A cable-car is
a ludicrous thing to build in Chatham, so it seems fit that the
justification for it is also ludicrous.

tom

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On Aug 26, 12:22 pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
Anyway, my reading was that John was being somewhat silly. A cable-car is
a ludicrous thing to build in Chatham, so it seems fit that the
justification for it is also ludicrous.

On the contrary , the locals would love it. They could use the cars
are a perfect place to get boozed up in then leave their empties and
pools of vomit behind. Naturally each trip would involve optionally
swinging back and forth in the car as hard as possible to try and get
it to hit something and lets not forget the breaking a window game so
they can chuck stuff down onto people and property beneath. Also think
of the golden (or should that been dayglo green?) opportunity the
disciples of TOX03 would have. - their sigs passing over everyone all
day continuously.

B2003

In message , at
12:22:22 on Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Tom Anderson
remarked:
Cablecars tend to go *up* things. Are there any that are built in the
complete absence of a steep slope? By 'complete absence', i mean
without a slope anywhere along; Barcelona's, for example, is on the
level between the foot of Montjuic and the port, but it's there because
there's a big slope from the foot of Montjuic to the top of Montjuic.

The cable-car at Alton Towers goes across a valley, rather than "up a
hill".
--
Roland Perry

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 12:22:22
on Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Tom Anderson remarked:

Cablecars tend to go *up* things. Are there any that are built in the
complete absence of a steep slope? By 'complete absence', i mean
without a slope anywhere along; Barcelona's, for example, is on the
level between the foot of Montjuic and the port, but it's there because
there's a big slope from the foot of Montjuic to the top of Montjuic.

The cable-car at Alton Towers goes across a valley, rather than "up a hill".

Okay, good one. There, i think we have an auxiliary reason for cable-cars,
which is that they're cool, and at a theme park, that's a good enough
reason. Alton Towers also has a number of light rail systems, and despite
the fact that they are all closed cloops with only one station, they have
a quite remarkable variety of grades and curves. And some really rather
unorthodox approaches to seating!

tom

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In message , at
15:17:25 on Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Tom Anderson
remarked:
The cable-car at Alton Towers goes across a valley, rather than "up a hill".

Okay, good one. There, i think we have an auxiliary reason for
cable-cars, which is that they're cool, and at a theme park, that's a
good enough reason.

The valley is surprisingly deep, and the way around the end surprisingly
far. It has a great deal of utility, as well as being merely "cool"
--
Roland Perry

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
.li...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at
12:22:22 on Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Tom Anderson
remarked:

Cablecars tend to go *up* things. Are there any that are built in
the complete absence of a steep slope? By 'complete absence', i
mean without a slope anywhere along; Barcelona's, for example, is
on the level between the foot of Montjuic and the port, but it's
there because there's a big slope from the foot of Montjuic to
the top of Montjuic.

The cable-car at Alton Towers goes across a valley, rather than
"up a hill".

Okay, good one. There, i think we have an auxiliary reason for
cable-cars, which is that they're cool, and at a theme park, that's
a good enough reason.

Which is why there is a proposal for a cross Thames cablecar in
Docklands. The route would be Canary Wharf- the Dome- Canning Town,
and perhaps on, up the Lea, to the Olympics site at Stratford;
cheap, quick to install, reasonably non controversial, so long as it
keeps clear of City Airport, and with the same tourist potential as
the London Eye.

If it turns out not to work, you could probably even sell the remains
second hand.

Jeremy Parker

In article , Tom
Anderson writes
The cable-car at Alton Towers goes across a valley, rather than "up a hill".
Okay, good one. There, i think we have an auxiliary reason for
cable-cars, which is that they're cool, and at a theme park, that's a
good enough reason.

And, now I think of it, I've seen cable cars at theme parks that are
completely on the flat (though I couldn't say where from memory).

Alton Towers also has a number of light rail systems, and despite the
fact that they are all closed cloops with only one station, they have a
quite remarkable variety of grades and curves. And some really rather
unorthodox approaches to seating!

Actually, one of them has two stations. Many of them also have sidings,
and I can think of one where the station has an island platform with
regular service on both tracks. [Come to think of it, a lot of the
stations have separate arrival and departure platforms.]

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On 26 Aug, 12:22, Tom Anderson wrote:
Cablecars tend to go *up* things. Are there any that are built in the
complete absence of a steep slope? By 'complete absence', i mean without a
slope anywhere along;

The Roosevelt Island tramway might count:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt_Island_Tramway

It goes from Manhattan across the East River to Roosevelt Island.
Granted, the bit over the river is much higher than the two ground
stations, but the overall journey is essentially horizontal.

U