On 16 Sep, 22:17, (Neil Williams)
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:44:32 +0100, "Paul Scott"

wrote:
Funnily enough, the trainline shows that on 15th December, Southern will be
running to MK hourly, but only from Clapham Junction, as there no longer
appear to be any through trains from further south.

Superb. *That'll be wonderful for me if I need to go to our Staines
office, and it might also be a nice alternative route to Tower Hill
where I work at present (go down from BLY/MKC to CJ then into
Waterloo) if I'm bored.


For a moment there I thought you were contemplating the District line
from West Brompton, which would be interesting if you like introducing
a wild card into your journeys (what with the possibility of being
dealt the Earls Court - Do Not Pass Go^H^H Through card).

Nice walk down the river from the Tower to Waterloo as well.


Through to Gatwick would have been nice, but the "round the side"
train coming back up to MK is a wonderful piece of news.


New Forest and the coast via CJ too!

On 16 Sep, 21:08, EE507 wrote:
On Sep 16, 8:44*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Opening on Sunday 28th September according to the BBC, the article goes on
to mention that the station will be served by a (Southern) East Croydon -
Milton Keynes service (but see below...)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7618263.stm

Funnily enough, the trainline shows that on 15th December, Southern will be
running to MK hourly, but only from Clapham Junction, as there no longer
appear to be any through trains from further south.

Was this change expected at this early stage - I thought the initial plan
from the RUS _was_ for EC to MK and the cut back to CJ was for a later
change...

The NXEC booking engine shows hourly off-peak xx:10 ECR-MKC and xx:13
return services. The supposedly 455-worked 07:47 ECR-Shepherds Bush is
in there too.

GatEx Brighton extension timings also look accurate.

Is it clear what the 460s do during the high peak when 442 run to
Brighton? There are some London Victoria to Three Bridges services
via Redhill but these only go each half hour. The 1715 from Victoria
is the last Gatwick terminator and presumably forms the 1805 back. Is
there some complicated stepping up of 460s which allows the Three
Bridges via Redhill services to be 460s or something else going on?

Jonathan

PS: When can I expect to see the closure consultation for Acton Wells
Junction to Acton Poplar Junction and the other non-electrified lines
served by AXC services via Kensington Olympia?

On 16 Sep, 23:28, "Paul Scott" wrote:

"Mizter T" wrote:

If the Southern services are just reversing at CJ, could they not use
platform 16 instead of 17 I wonder?

Did you miss that, contrary to my findings, EE507 has now posted
that the service IS running from EC, according to the NXEC planner...


I read EE507's post literally just after I'd posted the above -
rendering much of it erroneous!

Interesting to see (from the NXEC planner) that it doesn't appear to
be running in service from South Croydon.

On Sep 16, 11:39*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On 16 Sep, 22:17, (Neil Williams)
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:44:32 +0100, "Paul Scott"

wrote:
Funnily enough, the trainline shows that on 15th December, Southern will be
running to MK hourly, but only from Clapham Junction, as there no longer
appear to be any through trains from further south.

Superb. *That'll be wonderful for me if I need to go to our Staines
office, and it might also be a nice alternative route to Tower Hill
where I work at present (go down from BLY/MKC to CJ then into
Waterloo) if I'm bored.

For a moment there I thought you were contemplating the District line
from West Brompton, which would be interesting if you like introducing
a wild card into your journeys (what with the possibility of being
dealt the Earls Court - Do Not Pass Go^H^H Through card).

Nice walk down the river from the Tower to Waterloo as well.



Through to Gatwick would have been nice, but the "round the side"
train coming back up to MK is a wonderful piece of news.

New Forest and the coast via CJ too!

I think that currently the quickest journeys from Olympia to Gatwick
require a nasty change from 17 to 13 at Clapham Junction.

In future there won't be the sedate option of sitting it out with your
luggage, but maybe they'll be timed for a quick cross/same platform
interchange at East Croydon, which won't be so bad?

wrote

PS: When can I expect to see the closure consultation for Acton Wells
Junction to Acton Poplar Junction and the other non-electrified lines
served by AXC services via Kensington Olympia?

Perhaps we'll get a parly Blockbuster. Will we also get a MKC - East Croydon
Southern service, missing out the Clapham Junction stop to run via
Longhedge, Factory Junction, herne Hill and Tulse Hill, as one of the AXCs
does now?

Peter

On Sep 16, 11:51*pm, MIG wrote:

In future there won't be the sedate option of sitting it out with your
luggage, but maybe they'll be timed for a quick cross/same platform
interchange at East Croydon, which won't be so bad?

The timetable suggests 13 min layovers in platform 5, so no cross-
platform interchange from the fast lines. Still preferable to CLJ
though.

On Sep 16, 11:47*pm, wrote:

PS: *When can I expect to see the closure consultation for Acton Wells
Junction to Acton Poplar Junction and the other non-electrified lines
served by AXC services via Kensington Olympia?- Hide quoted text -

Good question. I'm surprised nobody from the gensheet group has
written to DfT yet.

Southern has been route-learning Tulse Hill-Herne Hill-Brixton-
Latchmere-Kenny O recently, so perhaps something interesting is
planned to replace VXC's Saturday morning trains which currently cover
the route.

On 17 Sep, 00:11, EE507 wrote:
On Sep 16, 11:47*pm, wrote:



PS: *When can I expect to see the closure consultation for Acton Wells
Junction to Acton Poplar Junction and the other non-electrified lines
served by AXC services via Kensington Olympia?- Hide quoted text -

Good question. I'm surprised nobody from the gensheet group has
written to DfT yet.

Southern has been route-learning Tulse Hill-Herne Hill-Brixton-
Latchmere-Kenny O recently, so perhaps something interesting is
planned to replace VXC's Saturday morning trains which currently cover
the route.

If a taxi (say Kensington Olympia to Ealing Broadway) could suffice as
the replacement over this route whilst closure proceedings are
underway, why can't they just replace the service with the Central
Line between Shepherds Bush and Ealing Broadway?

I can't see any evidence of a taxi in the booking engine searches so
far. Do occasional Virgin blockbusters suffice as a parliamentary
service?


Jonathan

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:39:13 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:

Nice walk down the river from the Tower to Waterloo as well.

Indeed. I usually do that anyway via the 59/68 bus from Euston, but
another rail route (if a bit longer) will add variety.

New Forest and the coast via CJ too!

And Airwick Gatport with one change instead of 2.

Neil

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Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

Southern only been route learning that way due to several drivers
moving into Link 1 at Norwood (the only drivers depot to sign the
route) and as there are no booked trains that way they have had to use
a spare unit to learn it in! Bring back the 4 eyed monster EPB for the
job i say!

EE507 wrote:


Southern has been route-learning Tulse Hill-Herne Hill-Brixton-
Latchmere-Kenny O recently, so perhaps something interesting is
planned to replace VXC's Saturday morning trains which currently cover
the route.