On 8 Oct, 15:15, "4sub" wrote:
"MIG" wrote in message

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On Oct 8, 3:03 am, darkprince66
wrote:





On 7 Oct, 15:54, "Paul Scott" wrote:

A bit of an issue for the upcoming WLL services?

Southern have applied to ORR for the proposed Dec 08 service, but there
are
problems because (if I'm reading correctly) Network Rail believe the
WCML
Moderation of Competition agreement prevents them allowing a service
that
calls at Wembley Central and Kensington Olympia en route from EC to
MK...

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...27sa_apfrm.pdf

For further information the draft agreement he

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...27sa_dftag.pdf

shows all the intended permutations of SN services on the route on
weekdays,
Sat, and Sun, from Purley to Milton Keynes...

Paul S

In it's original form, as introduced by Connex, the Brighton-Rugby
service was a most useful innovation. At the time, ISTR that there was
much talk of the service being extended north to Birmingham, I believe
the plan was to take a North London Railways path north of
Northampton, preserving the half hourly frequency between that town
and Birmingham.

It was truncated to a Watford-Brighton service a couple of years after
it's introduction without ever getting it's northward extension,
another victim of the WCML upgrade.

To be fair, it did effectively get a southern extension, because only
the odd run went to Brighton originally. *It was really a Gatwick to
Rugby service.

And didn't those 319 units shift under the wires although it was normal on a
Monday morning to arrive at Rugby with no collector shoes. - Hide quoted text -

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Having looked at the track access agreement, I rescind my earlier
comment about it's usefulness. It stops at nearly every bloody lamp
post along the way! Tring to Balham? Hmmm...

On 9 Oct, 03:17, darkprince66 wrote:
Having looked at the track access agreement, I rescind my earlier
comment about it's usefulness. It stops at nearly every bloody lamp
post along the way! Tring to Balham? Hmmm...

Some people want to travel from Tring to Balham. If you want to go to
Gatwick you need to change anyway, may as well be at Clapham if it
does save time. This service will get people for the Milton Keynes-
Harrow corridor, the Bletchley - Underground (at Shepherds Bush)
corridor, the WLL, and services in south london

On 8 Oct, 15:15, "4sub" wrote:
"MIG" wrote in message

...
On Oct 8, 3:03 am, darkprince66
wrote:





On 7 Oct, 15:54, "Paul Scott" wrote:

A bit of an issue for the upcoming WLL services?

Southern have applied to ORR for the proposed Dec 08 service, but there
are
problems because (if I'm reading correctly) Network Rail believe the
WCML
Moderation of Competition agreement prevents them allowing a service
that
calls at Wembley Central and Kensington Olympia en route from EC to
MK...

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...27sa_apfrm.pdf

For further information the draft agreement he

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...27sa_dftag.pdf

shows all the intended permutations of SN services on the route on
weekdays,
Sat, and Sun, from Purley to Milton Keynes...

Paul S

In it's original form, as introduced by Connex, the Brighton-Rugby
service was a most useful innovation. At the time, ISTR that there was
much talk of the service being extended north to Birmingham, I believe
the plan was to take a North London Railways path north of
Northampton, preserving the half hourly frequency between that town
and Birmingham.

It was truncated to a Watford-Brighton service a couple of years after
it's introduction without ever getting it's northward extension,
another victim of the WCML upgrade.

To be fair, it did effectively get a southern extension, because only
the odd run went to Brighton originally. *It was really a Gatwick to
Rugby service.

And didn't those 319 units shift under the wires although it was normal on a
Monday morning to arrive at Rugby with no collector shoes. - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I often found you were lucky to get a train on a Monday morning.
Connex had usually had to swipe them to cover shortage elsewhere... :-
(

Rich