On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:16:34 +0100 Steve M wrote:
} Matthew Malthouse wrote:
}
}
}
} There is also an extention to the DLR that will provide dual platforms
} at the extsiting Stratford and a new terminus at the International
} station.
}
} http://www.tfl.gov.uk/dlr/developmen...d/stations.htm
}
} Matthew
}
} Looking at the maps, would option 2 (which seems like a wholly new DLR
} route to Stratford) mean abandonment of the current DLR line to
} Stratford, or would there then be 2 ways to get there via different
} routes? I'm not from the area but thats how the map reads to me. Option
} 1 looks like an extension to the current layout.

It's all rather lacking in detail but it seems that the prefered option
2 would use the North London Line corridor from Custom House to
Stratford as DLR thsu providing a direct link between Startfor
International and London City Airport.

Nothing on the site suggests the abandonment of the Stratford to Poplar
branch and indeed that would seem foolish as it's a direct link to
Canary Wharf and very busy mcuh of the time. However foolish transport
decsisions are not entirely unknown.

What happens to the North London Line as a concequence of building DLR
option 2 is not stated.

Matthew
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"Matthew Malthouse" wrote in message
.. .

} There is also an extention to the DLR that will provide dual
platforms
} at the extsiting Stratford and a new terminus at the International
} station.
}
}
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/dlr/developmen...d/stations.htm
}
} Looking at the maps, would option 2 (which seems like a wholly new DLR
} route to Stratford) mean abandonment of the current DLR line to
} Stratford, or would there then be 2 ways to get there via different
} routes? I'm not from the area but thats how the map reads to me. Option
} 1 looks like an extension to the current layout.

It's all rather lacking in detail but it seems that the prefered option
2 would use the North London Line corridor from Custom House to
Stratford as DLR thsu providing a direct link between Startfor
International and London City Airport.

Nothing on the site suggests the abandonment of the Stratford to Poplar
branch and indeed that would seem foolish as it's a direct link to
Canary Wharf and very busy mcuh of the time. However foolish transport
decsisions are not entirely unknown.

What happens to the North London Line as a concequence of building DLR
option 2 is not stated.

I thought the intention (if you look at the DLR Stratford extension maps
closely - see the orange (?) route) is to divert the NLL services into
Stratford main station and up the Lea Valley.

Angus

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 09:38:12 +0100 Angus Bryant wrote:
} "Matthew Malthouse" wrote in message
} .. .
}
} } There is also an extention to the DLR that will provide dual
} platforms
} } at the extsiting Stratford and a new terminus at the International
} } station.
} }
} }
} http://www.tfl.gov.uk/dlr/developmen...d/stations.htm
} }
} } Looking at the maps, would option 2 (which seems like a wholly new DLR
} } route to Stratford) mean abandonment of the current DLR line to
} } Stratford, or would there then be 2 ways to get there via different
} } routes? I'm not from the area but thats how the map reads to me. Option
} } 1 looks like an extension to the current layout.
}
} It's all rather lacking in detail but it seems that the prefered option
} 2 would use the North London Line corridor from Custom House to
} Stratford as DLR thsu providing a direct link between Startfor
} International and London City Airport.
}
} Nothing on the site suggests the abandonment of the Stratford to Poplar
} branch and indeed that would seem foolish as it's a direct link to
} Canary Wharf and very busy mcuh of the time. However foolish transport
} decsisions are not entirely unknown.
}
} What happens to the North London Line as a concequence of building DLR
} option 2 is not stated.
}
} I thought the intention (if you look at the DLR Stratford extension maps
} closely - see the orange (?) route) is to divert the NLL services into
} Stratford main station and up the Lea Valley.

I've not found a map that admits to that close an inspection. Can you
point me in the right direction?


Matthew
--
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Matthew Malthouse wrote:

} It's all rather lacking in detail but it seems that the prefered option
} 2 would use the North London Line corridor from Custom House to
} Stratford as DLR thsu providing a direct link between Startfor
} International and London City Airport.
}
} Nothing on the site suggests the abandonment of the Stratford to Poplar
} branch and indeed that would seem foolish as it's a direct link to
} Canary Wharf and very busy mcuh of the time. However foolish transport
} decsisions are not entirely unknown.
}
} What happens to the North London Line as a concequence of building DLR
} option 2 is not stated.
}
} I thought the intention (if you look at the DLR Stratford extension maps
} closely - see the orange (?) route) is to divert the NLL services into
} Stratford main station and up the Lea Valley.

I've not found a map that admits to that close an inspection. Can you
point me in the right direction?

Have a look at the three photographic maps down at the bottom of the
page below. The lines are in blue, not orange - sorry for the
confusion!

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/dlr/developmen..._appraisal.htm

Angus

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:33:16 +0100 Angus Bryant wrote:
} Matthew Malthouse wrote:
}
} } I thought the intention (if you look at the DLR Stratford extension maps
} } closely - see the orange (?) route) is to divert the NLL services into
} } Stratford main station and up the Lea Valley.
}
} I've not found a map that admits to that close an inspection. Can you
} point me in the right direction?
}
} Have a look at the three photographic maps down at the bottom of the
} page below. The lines are in blue, not orange - sorry for the
} confusion!
}
} http://www.tfl.gov.uk/dlr/developmen..._appraisal.htm

Aha. I see what you mean. I can't find any documentation reflecting
this change though. Searches of tfl and tfl/rail for "North London
Line" produce nothing of relevance.

Matthew
--
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Matthew Malthouse wrote:

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:33:16 +0100 Angus Bryant wrote:
} Matthew Malthouse wrote:
}
} } I thought the intention (if you look at the DLR Stratford extension maps
} } closely - see the orange (?) route) is to divert the NLL services into
} } Stratford main station and up the Lea Valley.
}
} I've not found a map that admits to that close an inspection. Can you
} point me in the right direction?
}
} Have a look at the three photographic maps down at the bottom of the
} page below. The lines are in blue, not orange - sorry for the
} confusion!
}
} http://www.tfl.gov.uk/dlr/developmen..._appraisal.htm

Aha. I see what you mean. I can't find any documentation reflecting
this change though. Searches of tfl and tfl/rail for "North London
Line" produce nothing of relevance.

Indeed. But it seems the most logical thing to do if the Stratford -
North Woolwich line is taken over by DLR. See also John Rowland's
excellent site:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro..._e.html#DLRNLL

Also I wonder if Stansted Express will switch to runing via Stratford?
Stopping here either instead of or in addition to Tottenham Hale may be
useful. WA should be part of Greater Anglia by then anyway, so it may
not matter that it'd be running to Liverpool Street on the Stratford
lines rather than the Hackney ones.

Angus

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:24:03 +0100 Angus Bryant wrote:
} Matthew Malthouse wrote:
}
} } http://www.tfl.gov.uk/dlr/developmen..._appraisal.htm
}
} Aha. I see what you mean. I can't find any documentation reflecting
} this change though. Searches of tfl and tfl/rail for "North London
} Line" produce nothing of relevance.
}
} Indeed. But it seems the most logical thing to do if the Stratford -
} North Woolwich line is taken over by DLR. See also John Rowland's
} excellent site:
}
} http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro..._e.html#DLRNLL

Good stuff.

The way that the tracks parallel each other it is very easy to imagine
the Jubilee taking over NLL services north of Stratford which would give
the line a marvelous loop right acoss the tube map. I think I remember
being told that this wasn't possible because it would mean tube and main
line stock sharing track which is a health and safety no-no. Shame,
it'd have been fun.

} Also I wonder if Stansted Express will switch to runing via Stratford?
} Stopping here either instead of or in addition to Tottenham Hale may be
} useful. WA should be part of Greater Anglia by then anyway, so it may
} not matter that it'd be running to Liverpool Street on the Stratford
} lines rather than the Hackney ones.

That would be nice too. Getting to Stanstead for the earlier (and
usually cheaper) flights is a right pain even living in a relatively
convenient area for Liverpool Street or Tottenham.

Matthew
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