I'm going to a comedy recording at Wood Lane on Friday so I thought I
would change at Clapham Junction for the new Shepherds Bush overground
station.

When I looked it up on the National rail Enquiries website I was
surprised to find that the cheapest off peak return is £16.00. I can
get a return to London with travelcard for £16.80! A return to
Clapham Junction is £11.50 and from C Jn to Shep Bush is £3.00 so I am
surprised that a through ticket is more expensive.

The SWT ticket machines don't seem to list Shepherds Bush so I was
unable to check on that.

So what is the cheapest fare? Or can I rely on a Fleet to London
Stations ticket?

Thx, Phil

..

So what is the cheapest fare? *Or can I rely on a Fleet to London
Stations ticket?

Thx, *Phil

If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover
you to Clapham Junction. Not sure about the last bit, would probably
say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along
to comment shortly!

On 4 Dec, 14:22, wrote:
I'm going to a comedy recording at Wood Lane on Friday so I thought I
would change at Clapham Junction for the new Shepherds Bush overground
station.

It's a fair old walk, although I guess you could go through Westfield
on the way (or you can walk along the south side of it without
venturing in). But I'd get the tube from SB to WC.

When I looked it up on the National rail Enquiries website I was
surprised to find that the cheapest off peak return is £16.00. *I can
get a return to London with travelcard for £16.80! *

That's super-off peak, which means it's valid on fewer trains to
London than the £16 off-peak ticket, although this may not affect you.

A return to
Clapham Junction is £11.50 and from C Jn to Shep Bush is £3.00 so I am
surprised that a through ticket is more expensive.

But the £11.50 is super-off peak. The off-peak fare to CJ is £14.10,
which fits with the £16 off-peak to SB. There doesn't seem to be a
super off-peak fare to Shepherd's Bush, hence the anomaly.

U

On 4 Dec, 14:27, wrote:
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So what is the cheapest fare? *Or can I rely on a Fleet to London
Stations ticket?

Thx, *Phil

If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover
you to Clapham Junction. *Not sure about the last bit, would probably
say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along
to comment shortly!

No, I'll be buying a ticket on the day. I have a Network Card so it
doesn't make much difference what I get (the min fare is £10, a
discounted £16.00 fare will cost me about £10.70, and a discounted
Travelcard is £11.30 IIRC) but I was interested in why a return to
Shep Bush via CJn was so expensive compared with a return to Waterloo
plus travelcard, or indeed a return to CJn plus CJn/SB return (or even
Oyster). It's doubly annoying if it isn't on the SWT ticket machine
as I'll have to go to the station when it's actually open, which is
getting rarer.

On Dec 4, 2:27*pm, wrote:
So what is the cheapest fare? *Or can I rely on a Fleet to London
Stations ticket?

If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover
you to Clapham Junction. *Not sure about the last bit, would probably
say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along
to comment shortly!

*waves*.

Fleet to London Terminals tickets are routed by maps CS and WR, or by
map WX. Map WX covers Fleet to Clapham Junction (it's basically the
SWT map), but not beyond - it only gets you into Waterloo or Victoria.

Maps CS and WR cover the GWML route into London via Reading and
Slough. They also allow you to travel via Hayes, Kensington Olympia
and Clapham into Waterloo. If you were to go this way, and catch one
of the occasional XC services that takes the route, then this'd get
you as far as Olympia... however, you'd still have to pay gbp3 for the
return Olympia-Shepherds Bush fare, as well as taking a ridiculous
route.

So it sounds like a Fleet to Clapham off-peak return at gbp11.20 and a
Clapham to Shepherds Bush off-peak return at gbp3 are the way forward.
No idea why the through fare is so expensive tho'.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

On 4 Dec, 14:36, Mr Thant
wrote:

But the £11.50 is super-off peak. The off-peak fare to CJ is £14.10,
which fits with the £16 off-peak to SB. There doesn't seem to be a
super off-peak fare to Shepherd's Bush, hence the anomaly.

U

I've checked. NRE is giving me no off peak or super off peak returns
between Shepherds Bush and CJn, the £3 return is "anytime". For some
reason it will give me an off peak to CJn + return to SB, but not a
super off peak. Not sure why it should do one or not the other? I
thought super off peak was the old cheap day return and the off peak
was a new fare designed to make people pay more if they travel just
after the morning peak - so I would have thought that Super Off Peaks
would always be available. But obviously not.

Thank you for the tip off on distances, it didn't look too bad on
Google Maps. It might be better to get a travelcard anyway.

On 4 Dec, 14:51, John B wrote:
On Dec 4, 2:27*pm, wrote:

Maps CS and WR cover the GWML route into London via Reading and
Slough. They also allow you to travel via Hayes, Kensington Olympia
and Clapham into Waterloo.

Thx. I thought it might be valid on the WLL, I think I might have
used my old season ticket to Olympia before, hadn't really realised
that was where the validity ended.

So it sounds like a Fleet to Clapham off-peak return at gbp11.20 and a
Clapham to Shepherds Bush off-peak return at gbp3 are the way forward.

I'm on a Network card so it will be a £16 return or a travelcard.

No idea why the through fare is so expensive tho'.

It looks like there are now only TfL fares on that route, not NR ones,
and you can't combine them with a super off peak.

So for some reason it seems you can book "anytime return to CJ +
anytime return from CJ to SB" or "off peak return to CJ + anytime
return from CJ to SB" but not "super off peak return to CJ + anytime
return from CJ to SB".

The NRE website doesn't give the London Stations fare for Olympia
either.

Oh how I miss my season ticket, it was all much easier then!
(Especially now you can use Oyster on the WLL)

On 4 Dec, 14:36, Mr Thant
wrote:

But the £11.50 is super-off peak. The off-peak fare to CJ is £14.10,
which fits with the £16 off-peak to SB. There doesn't seem to be a
super off-peak fare to Shepherd's Bush, hence the anomaly.

A similar one exists for MKC-BHM, which I'm led to believe will be
corrected in January. In the meantime, if you want a weekend day
return for that route, a Super Off-Peak Return from MKC to Stafford is
what you want, as it's 4 quid cheaper than the CDR to Brum.

Neil

In message
John B wrote:

On Dec 4, 2:27*pm, wrote:
So what is the cheapest fare? *Or can I rely on a Fleet to London
Stations ticket?

If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover
you to Clapham Junction. *Not sure about the last bit, would probably
say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along
to comment shortly!

*waves*.

Fleet to London Terminals tickets are routed by maps CS and WR, or by
map WX. Map WX covers Fleet to Clapham Junction (it's basically the
SWT map), but not beyond - it only gets you into Waterloo or Victoria.

Maps CS and WR cover the GWML route into London via Reading and
Slough. They also allow you to travel via Hayes, Kensington Olympia
and Clapham into Waterloo. If you were to go this way, and catch one
of the occasional XC services that takes the route, then this'd get
you as far as Olympia... however, you'd still have to pay gbp3 for the
return Olympia-Shepherds Bush fare, as well as taking a ridiculous
route.

So it sounds like a Fleet to Clapham off-peak return at gbp11.20 and a
Clapham to Shepherds Bush off-peak return at gbp3 are the way forward.
No idea why the through fare is so expensive tho'.


Why bother, go to Waterloo then Bakerloo/Northern line (to taste) and then
Central Line to White City which is right opposite TV Centre. Shepherds Bush
is right the other end of Shepherds Bush Green and, frankly, I wouldn't fancy
walking back there from TVC after dark.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

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John B wrote:

On Dec 4, 2:27 pm, wrote:
So what is the cheapest fare? Or can I rely on a Fleet to London
Stations ticket?

If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover
you to Clapham Junction. Not sure about the last bit, would probably
say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along
to comment shortly!

*waves*.

Fleet to London Terminals tickets are routed by maps CS and WR, or by
map WX. Map WX covers Fleet to Clapham Junction (it's basically the
SWT map), but not beyond - it only gets you into Waterloo or Victoria.

Maps CS and WR cover the GWML route into London via Reading and
Slough. They also allow you to travel via Hayes, Kensington Olympia
and Clapham into Waterloo. If you were to go this way, and catch one
of the occasional XC services that takes the route, then this'd get
you as far as Olympia... however, you'd still have to pay gbp3 for the
return Olympia-Shepherds Bush fare, as well as taking a ridiculous
route.

So it sounds like a Fleet to Clapham off-peak return at gbp11.20 and a
Clapham to Shepherds Bush off-peak return at gbp3 are the way forward.
No idea why the through fare is so expensive tho'.


Why bother, go to Waterloo then Bakerloo/Northern line (to taste) and then
Central Line to White City which is right opposite TV Centre. Shepherds
Bush
is right the other end of Shepherds Bush Green and, frankly, I wouldn't
fancy
walking back there from TVC after dark.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

It's counter intuitive but how about Waterloo, Bakerloo or Jubilee to Baker
St then Hammersmith and City to the new station that I can't remember the
name of?

Google

Wood Lane, that's the one.

Or...

Vauxhall, Victoria Line to Victoria, District to Hammersmith H and C to Wood
Lane?