I dont know if it is related to the economic situation but recently I
have found that a lot more buses are waiting time at bus stops. Is
this strictly speaking legal. They load up then wait for about a
minute before moving off delaying the traffic behind. Maybe there are
more buses running early as there is less traffic on the road but are
they allowed to just stop at a bus stop.

It would be better if they just kept on going. If they get to their
destination early then maybe the timetable needs changing rather than
hogging the road for no good reason.

On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:50:32 -0800 (PST) someone who may be
wrote this:-

I dont know if it is related to the economic situation but recently I
have found that a lot more buses are waiting time at bus stops. Is
this strictly speaking legal.

Yes.

They load up then wait for about a
minute before moving off delaying the traffic behind. [snip]

It would be better if they just kept on going.

Tell that to passengers who miss the bus because it is running
early.

Bus drivers wait for time at timing points. At stops which are not
timing points they will continue.



--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
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wrote ...
I dont know if it is related to the economic situation but recently I
have found that a lot more buses are waiting time at bus stops. Is
this strictly speaking legal. They load up then wait for about a
minute before moving off delaying the traffic behind. Maybe there are
more buses running early as there is less traffic on the road but are
they allowed to just stop at a bus stop.
It would be better if they just kept on going. If they get to their
destination early then maybe the timetable needs changing rather than
hogging the road for no good reason.

With the new satellite surveillance, control can now more easily see gaps in
the service, and it''s certainly more frequecnt to be held to close a gap
than it ever was - although now we're told about it, it may just be that
we're more aware.

There is good reason; a lightly loaded bus romping home early can play havoc
with those following that then have longer queues and get steadily later.
It's not for nothing that drivers who are ahead of schedule risk more severe
discipline tha those who are untimely late.

It's not often about the timetable - late buses may be held too - it's about
traffic congestion.

But - while I stand by pretty much all I've said, it does need to be applied
more intelligently; they need to study each route and select key places
where buses can be held *without* being a menace to other road users
(dedicated laybys exist on most routes, but not at every stop).

A smaller issue is the lack of space for buses at the end of the line; for
months, for example, the 341 has 'officially' parked up in a bus lane on
the A23 Westminster Bridge Road (rather than continue 150 metres to the
first stop in Baylis Road where passengers would tap on the doors while the
driver took his breather). This was because building work at Westminster
Bridge (south end) had blocked their layby.

Loopy; I could name several more sensible places.


--

Andrew

"She plays the tuba.
It is the only instrument capable
of imitating a distress call."

"David Hansen" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:50:32 -0800 (PST) someone who may be
wrote this:-

I dont know if it is related to the economic situation but recently I
have found that a lot more buses are waiting time at bus stops. Is
this strictly speaking legal.

Yes.

It's called a bus STOP. There's a clue in the name.

"Graculus" wrote:-
I dont know if it is related to the economic situation but recently I
have found that a lot more buses are waiting time at bus stops. Is
this strictly speaking legal.
Yes.
It's called a bus STOP. There's a clue in the name.


Whoooosh!

In article c6a41a57-5436-407b-81d3-061a81a77009
@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com, says...
I dont know if it is related to the economic situation but recently I
have found that a lot more buses are waiting time at bus stops. Is
this strictly speaking legal.

Yes.

They load up then wait for about a
minute before moving off delaying the traffic behind.

Perhaps, like in my area, the driver is waiting for the 80 year old
lady to get to her seat before setting off.


It would be better if they just kept on going. If they get to their
destination early then maybe the timetable needs changing rather than
hogging the road for no good reason.

ROFLMAO. Might as well dispense with the timetable altogether.

--
Conor

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looking good either. - Scott Adams

wrote in message
...
I dont know if it is related to the economic situation but recently I
have found that a lot more buses are waiting time at bus stops. Is
this strictly speaking legal. They load up then wait for about a
minute before moving off delaying the traffic behind. Maybe there are
more buses running early as there is less traffic on the road but are
they allowed to just stop at a bus stop.

It would be better if they just kept on going. If they get to their
destination early then maybe the timetable needs changing rather than
hogging the road for no good reason.

There is a simple solution, force bus companies to install bus stops that are
100% out of traffic flow and ban them from stopping where they don't.

"Depresion" 127.0.0.1 wrote in message
et...

wrote in message
...
I dont know if it is related to the economic situation but recently I
have found that a lot more buses are waiting time at bus stops. Is
this strictly speaking legal. They load up then wait for about a
minute before moving off delaying the traffic behind. Maybe there are
more buses running early as there is less traffic on the road but are
they allowed to just stop at a bus stop.

It would be better if they just kept on going. If they get to their
destination early then maybe the timetable needs changing rather than
hogging the road for no good reason.

There is a simple solution, force bus companies to install bus stops that
are 100% out of traffic flow and ban them from stopping where they don't.

Bus companies don't have the right to build laybys wherever they need a stop
and on many routes there wouldn't be any place to put them , or alternative
locations to use
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away"

Dr Zoidberg wrote:
"Depresion" 127.0.0.1 wrote in message
et...

wrote in message
...
I dont know if it is related to the economic situation but recently I
have found that a lot more buses are waiting time at bus stops. Is
this strictly speaking legal. They load up then wait for about a
minute before moving off delaying the traffic behind. Maybe there are
more buses running early as there is less traffic on the road but are
they allowed to just stop at a bus stop.

It would be better if they just kept on going. If they get to their
destination early then maybe the timetable needs changing rather than
hogging the road for no good reason.

There is a simple solution, force bus companies to install bus stops
that are 100% out of traffic flow and ban them from stopping where
they don't.

Bus companies don't have the right to build laybys wherever they need a
stop and on many routes there wouldn't be any place to put them , or
alternative locations to use

Some cities have even deliberately filled in bus lay-bys just to make
congestion worse, so that they can then blame the car user for ensuing
chaos. Also, as bus drivers are disciplined for leaving a stop early, I
don't really think that they'll want to put their job on the line by
disobeying company instructions. After all, if the traffic commissioners
get to hear of it, the bus company can then be heavily fined and forced,
in some cases, to take some of their buses off the road as a further
"punishment"!

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Moving things in still pictures!

On Dec 4, 3:11*pm, David Hansen
wrote:
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:50:32 -0800 (PST) someone who may be
wrote this:-

I dont know if it is related to the economic situation but recently I
have found that a lot more buses are waiting time at bus stops. *Is
this strictly speaking legal.

Yes.

Actually, the answer could well be NO. It depends on the wording in
the traffic order, assuming that there is an order in force and that
there are yellow or red lines on the road at that point. Some, but not
all, traffic orders state that a bus can stop to pick up or set down
passengers at a stop, but there could well be no provision to wait at
that point beyond doing so. Also, if there is no reference to a bus
stop in the order, then a bus has no more right than any other vehicle
to wait on a restricted stretch of road. I've known over-enthusiastic
parking attendants in at least one nameless Inner London borough to
ticket buses while they stood at a stop with no passengers in sight.

Of course common sense usually prevails and there is no such
enforcement, although it can be a pain in some locations. Of course
where there are no restrictions, a bus has as much (or as little)
right as any other vehicle to wait.

Peter