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![]() I see the rapist minicab driver is still white ... has Boris sacked any of Ken's racist Labour cronies since he took office at all? |
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John Rowland wrote:
I see the rapist minicab driver is still white ... has Boris sacked any of Ken's racist Labour cronies since he took office at all? "I do very much regret any offence caused by any past newspaper articles. It really was never my intention to cause offence, but to provoke debate. The articles, which I deeply regret writing, also don't give a fair reflection of my views. I want to make clear that I am emphatically not anti-immigration and can produce many quotes from my writings in praise of immigration. Indeed, as I wrote in 2002. "I believe that immigration, in getting cultures to mix and learn from each other, in letting people better their lives in a country of their own choice and helping them escape persecution, can be an enormously powerful and positive force for good. Immigration has undoubtedly enriched Britain over the centuries." I have repeatedly publicly condemned racism, and those who espouse racism. Over a year ago I wrote in the Spectator.: "The Left was definitely right on basic moral issues, particularly on promoting tolerance whether it be gay rights, women's rights or combating racism." I want to assure you that my policy advice to the mayor will be based on the following principles: support for diversity, opposition to racism and other forms of discrimination, support for immigrants and immigrant communities, and support for equality of opportunity. I invite you to judge me by these standards, not by what I may have written some years in the past." That was Anthony Browne, Boris Johnson's Policy Director, writing recently to apologise to Labour's Jennette Arnold after she highlighted some unpleasant hack journalism he'd written prior to his appointment. It's got bugger all to do with transport though, hasn't it, John? Tom |
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![]() On 22 Dec, 23:42, "John Rowland" wrote: I see the rapist minicab driver is still white ... has Boris sacked any of Ken's racist Labour cronies since he took office at all? This is nonsense John. |
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On Dec 22, 11:42*pm, "John Rowland"
wrote: I see the rapist minicab driver is still white ... has Boris sacked any of Ken's racist Labour cronies since he took office at all? "Black men are rapists" is a very unpleasant racial stereotype that still, sadly, exists in real life. "White men are rapists" is not. Therefore, picking a white man for your anti-rape poster has no dodgy connotations at all, whereas picking a black man for said poster utterly does. (I suppose they could pick an Asian man, but given that the majority of men in London are white that'd be a bit odd. If the same campaign were run in India, it'd clearly be appropriate to show an Indian man rather than a white man or a black man...) Are you a) actually incapable of thinking the above through; b) unaware that racists traditionally stereotype black men as rapists; or c) a racist who stereotypes black men as rapists? Because I can't see any other explanation for why you'd even find this controversial... -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
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On Dec 23, 12:48 pm, John B wrote:
"Black men are rapists" is a very unpleasant racial stereotype that still, sadly, exists in real life. "White men are rapists" is not. Therefore, picking a white man for your anti-rape poster has no dodgy connotations at all, whereas picking a black man for said poster utterly does. You do spout a load of ******** sometimes. I suppose only black guys should portray paedophiles then and only white guys drug dealers? B2003 |
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On Dec 24, 10:48 am, James Farrar wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:03:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 23, 12:48 pm, John B wrote: "Black men are rapists" is a very unpleasant racial stereotype that still, sadly, exists in real life. "White men are rapists" is not. Therefore, picking a white man for your anti-rape poster has no dodgy connotations at all, whereas picking a black man for said poster utterly does. You do spout a load of ******** sometimes. For Christmas I shall be getting a new irony detector. My old one just broke. Look out Ponsonby, the cheap seats are getting a bit lairy, must be the christmas brandy. B2003 |
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:48:17 -0800 (PST), John B wrote:
I see the rapist minicab driver is still white ... has Boris sacked any of Ken's racist Labour cronies since he took office at all? Are you a) actually incapable of thinking the above through; b) unaware that racists traditionally stereotype black men as rapists; or c) a racist who stereotypes black men as rapists? Because I can't see any other explanation for why you'd even find this controversial... The reason this is controversial is that almost everyone depicted in TfL's publicity is black or Asian, *except* when they are some sort of criminal (fare dodger, rapist, etc) in which case they are invariably white. |
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asdf wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:48:17 -0800 (PST), John B wrote: I see the rapist minicab driver is still white ... has Boris sacked any of Ken's racist Labour cronies since he took office at all? Are you a) actually incapable of thinking the above through; b) unaware that racists traditionally stereotype black men as rapists; or c) a racist who stereotypes black men as rapists? Because I can't see any other explanation for why you'd even find this controversial... The reason this is controversial is that almost everyone depicted in TfL's publicity is black or Asian, *except* when they are some sort of criminal (fare dodger, rapist, etc) in which case they are invariably white. Thank you. Nice to see I'm not the only one still awake. |
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, John Rowland wrote:
asdf wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:48:17 -0800 (PST), John B wrote: I see the rapist minicab driver is still white ... has Boris sacked any of Ken's racist Labour cronies since he took office at all? Are you a) actually incapable of thinking the above through; b) unaware that racists traditionally stereotype black men as rapists; or c) a racist who stereotypes black men as rapists? Because I can't see any other explanation for why you'd even find this controversial... The reason this is controversial is that almost everyone depicted in TfL's publicity is black or Asian, *except* when they are some sort of criminal (fare dodger, rapist, etc) in which case they are invariably white. Thank you. Nice to see I'm not the only one still awake. I don't deny that this is the case (i haven't checked - it might be, it might not be), can i put my hand up as a white man and say i don't give the slightest resemblance of a toss about this? I'm happy for TfL (and the Department for Education and Whatever, in some similar stock photo selection bias that my teacher aunt pointed out to me over christmas) to stereotype me and my white brethren as any combination of rapists, racists, or taxi drivers if they like, because it doesn't actually make the blindest bit of difference to anything that actually matters. We're not a group that's on the receiving end of discrimination - nothing that actually does any harm, anyway. Black people are. They need some gentle treatment in these matters. We don't. tom -- Would you like to remember more? |
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