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On 11 Jan, 16:54, MIG wrote:
This makes more sense than it rejecting a double touch, but it's now
consistent with Greenwich and inconsistent with Stratford ...


What happens at Stratford?

All would be solved in general if the DLR paid more attention to the
siting of pads, but I don't know if they are missable at Woolwich.


As I recall, they're located at the exits from the DLR station
building on to the NR platforms. Since there are escalators that take
you straight to the DLR station exit gatelines, you wouldn't normally
pass them unless you deliberately headed for the NR platforms.

U

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On Jan 11, 5:20*pm, Mr Thant
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On 11 Jan, 16:54, MIG wrote:

This makes more sense than it rejecting a double touch, but it's now
consistent with Greenwich and inconsistent with Stratford ...


What happens at Stratford?


I meant that, although all three stations are different, at Greenwich
and Woolwich you can't end your DLR journey at the main station exit,
but have to end it before leaving the DLR area, whereas at Stratford
you can end your DLR journey at the main NR/LU exit.


All would be solved in general if the DLR paid more attention to the
siting of pads, but I don't know if they are missable at Woolwich.


As I recall, they're located at the exits from the DLR station
building on to the NR platforms. Since there are escalators that take
you straight to the DLR station exit gatelines, you wouldn't normally
pass them unless you deliberately headed for the NR platforms.


Is this the first/only DLR gateline in the system, ie a gateline
that's not already there for LU? Does it also work as an exit gate
for NR tickets if you head out that way?
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:06:19 -0800 (PST), Mr Thant
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On 11 Jan, 12:37, Paul Corfield wrote:
There are two entrances from what I can tell from plans and photos.


There's an escalator heading west that takes you to one entrance
building by the town centre. There's another escalator heading east
that takes you to the other entrance building next door* to the NR
station entrance (only a short block west of the first entrance), and
this floor also has a footbridge over the NR line to the far NR
platform. East of the two escalators there's a set of stairs taking
you up to a floor that's level with the nearside NR platform, and in
turn has stairs up to the footbridge and exit level. Finally, there
are lifts at either end of the platform that take you up to the two
different entrance buildings.


Having been there and used both entrances and got them sort of aligned
with (my understanding of) the town centre I can see what they've done.
I didn't do a full exploration of the layout and certainly didn't see
how it connects up with National Rail. That can wait for another time.

There were a fair number of people trying the line out and I was
somewhat surprised at how many people were using London City Airport on
a Sunday. Other people milling about the town centre were certainly
noticing the fact that the line is now open.

For me the most obvious advantage - after a long slog to Canning Town by
bus - is that the DLR gives a good springboard on to a lot of buses in
Woolwich which spread out far and wide. It's also a pretty decent
interchange to the buses which is helpful.

It seems rather extravagant. They seem to have placed a very high
value on building the station a little further west to connect to the
town centre, rather than in the cutting alongside the railway station
(the tunnel portal is even further east) and having the entrance
there.

(* -ish. There's a listed building between them)


Well I take your point but I think it is sensible that it is properly
linked to the town centre and to the railway station. There'd be no
point building it and having the station stuck across a dual carriageway
road (by the actual Arsenal itself).

It's been a long while since I've been to Woolwich and I have to say
it's in need of a bit of a lift. Hopefully the DLR might make a
contribution by making it easier for people to get there.

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On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:13:16 -0800 (PST), Abigail Brady
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On Jan 11, 12:37 pm, Paul Corfield wrote:
Don't understand your ticketing problems given you had a Z1-4
travelcard.


Oops, that was a typo, meant Z123.


Ah - that makes a bit more sense.
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Mr Thant wrote:

other entrance building next door* to the NR
station entrance

(* -ish. There's a listed building between them)


Is the lighthouse still there?




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On Jan 11, 5:20 pm, Mr Thant
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As I recall, they're located at the exits from the DLR station
building on to the NR platforms. Since there are escalators that take
you straight to the DLR station exit gatelines, you wouldn't normally
pass them unless you deliberately headed for the NR platforms.


Which I was, because I needed to get a ticket...

I dunno, it just seems weird to have one 'paid area' with different
gates letting you out programmed differently.

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On 11 Jan, 17:34, Paul Corfield wrote:
Well I take your point but I think it is sensible that it is properly
linked to the town centre and to the railway station. *


As built it has two exits, one on Powis St and one on Woolwich New
Road adjacent to the railway station, about 70 metres apart as the
crow flies, and about double that walking, with only one not-that-busy
road to cross. The obvious cost reduction would be ditching the Powis
St exit and moving the plaforms a short distance east to by the
railway station, presumably saving a large sum of money in terms of
cut-and-cover tunnelling and station fit out. I'm surprised they
didn't.

There'd be no
point building it and having the station stuck across a dual carriageway
road (by the actual Arsenal itself).


I'd advise you don't look into where they're putting the Crossrail
station then.

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MIG wrote:
The departure board for Woolwich doesn't seem to be available but this
is King George, (if this link works), by process of elimination I am
assuming that blank may imply Woolwich if "Bank" is Bank.


http://www.dlrdaisy.co.uk/daisy/kgv/kgv10pid.htm


I now has he correct desinaion, bu he clock says 00:00.

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In article ,
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I now has he correct desinaion, bu he clock says 00:00.


My 't' key seems to have gone on strike. :-(

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I now has he correct desinaion, bu he clock says 00:00.

There's something wrong with your t.

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