Neil Williams wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:38:14 +0000, Matthew Dickinson
wrote:

I can't remember this happening in the 70s and 80s when we had the
same levels of snowfall, so I wonder what has changed...

It didn't happen when Milton Keynes Council made the gritting errors a
few years ago which resulted in the entire grid system becoming an ice
rink. The timetable was given up and the buses that were out were
sliding all over the place, but a service was maintained as far as
humanly possible, and even restarted the next day, given that the
drivers themselves also had to get to/from home.

Neil

I wonder if this is in part because the weather is EXPECTED to get worse.
Last time it snowed in the afternoon and transport was distrupted (by
idiots in cars and HGVs) many people spent many hours trying to get home
and others slept in their offices.
Perhaps if such weather is expected it is better to make it difficult to
get to work in the first place

Jim Chisholm

On 2 Feb, 10:25, "J. Chisholm" wrote:

Perhaps if such weather is expected it is better to make it difficult to
get to work in the first place

This is certainly true, but remember that not everyone works 9-5, and
there being no buses this morning could well be making it difficult
for some overnight shift workers to get *home*.

Neil

"Neil Williams" wrote in message
...
On 2 Feb, 10:25, "J. Chisholm" wrote:

Perhaps if such weather is expected it is better to make it difficult to
get to work in the first place

This is certainly true, but remember that not everyone works 9-5, and
there being no buses this morning could well be making it difficult
for some overnight shift workers to get *home*.

Neil

There is also a potential problem if only some buses are running, and no
tubes and limited main line rail, that "crowd control" would become a
problem. And anyway, another 4-8" snow forecast for this afternoon!

MaxB

On 2 Feb, 11:06, "Batman55" wrote:

There is also a potential problem if only some buses are running, and no
tubes and limited main line rail, that "crowd control" would become a
problem.

That it might, but there are only so many people who can physically
fit on a bus. But there aren't many travelling anyway - London is as
quiet as 8am on a Sunday.

And anyway, another 4-8" snow forecast for this afternoon!

Shouldn't be a problem if the gritters stay out.

Neil

In article , (J.
Chisholm) wrote:

Neil Williams wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:38:14 +0000, Matthew Dickinson
wrote:

I can't remember this happening in the 70s and 80s when we had the
same levels of snowfall, so I wonder what has changed...

It didn't happen when Milton Keynes Council made the gritting errors a
few years ago which resulted in the entire grid system becoming an ice
rink. The timetable was given up and the buses that were out were
sliding all over the place, but a service was maintained as far as
humanly possible, and even restarted the next day, given that the
drivers themselves also had to get to/from home.

I wonder if this is in part because the weather is EXPECTED to get
worse. Last time it snowed in the afternoon and transport was
distrupted (by idiots in cars and HGVs) many people spent many hours
trying to get home and others slept in their offices.
Perhaps if such weather is expected it is better to make it
difficult to get to work in the first place

Sounds right. I decided not to attempt to get in from Cambridge to work in
Westminster this morning after discovering that almost no-one had got in
anyway.

I was expecting to cycle from King's Cross when FCC was running an almost
normal GN service. By 9:15 they had reduced that to two slows an hour so I
decided there were better ways to meet work objectives.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , Matthew
Dickinson writes
All TfL bus services have been suspended due to the snow.

I can't remember this happening in the 70s and 80s when we had the
same levels of snowfall, so I wonder what has changed...

Idiots running it !!

As a kid I never remember the buses stopping, even in the famous winters
in the early 60's the buses kept on going.

Now some twit of a jobs worth decides to be over zealous and brings the
capital to a halt. He/She should be publicly beaten !!

--
Edward Cowling "Eldrad Must Live !!"

Matthew Dickinson wrote:
All TfL bus services have been suspended due to the snow.

I can't remember this happening in the 70s and 80s when we had the
same levels of snowfall, so I wonder what has changed...

Ken kens - http://snipurl.com/b5uex

JP

In message , Matthew
Dickinson writes

All TfL bus services have been suspended due to the snow.

I can't remember this happening in the 70s and 80s when we had the
same levels of snowfall, so I wonder what has changed...

Times have changed.

I was at school in the early 1960s, and the winter of 62/63 (the coldest
since 1740) started with three days of impenetrable fog in early
December, followed by storms and then virtually continuous snow cover
from Boxing Day until March.

School didn't close once, nor did the buses stop running.

Times have changed.

My grandfather, who was station master at Monument, once walked 15 miles
to work in one of the impenetrable smogs of the 1950s - he got up at
midnight and left home before 1am, and was only a little late in opening
up the station soon after 6am - I always remember him complaining that
he had to walk slowly because visibility was down to three feet in
places.

But somehow everything kept going after a fashion - I guess it was the
remnants of the wartime spirit of not giving up when the going gets
tough.
--
Paul Terry