Matthew Dickinson wrote in
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All TfL bus services have been suspended due to the snow.

I can't remember this happening in the 70s and 80s when we had the
same levels of snowfall, so I wonder what has changed...

I'm fairly certain it happened in 1979 when I had to walk back from Camden
Town to Stoke Newington one evening

On 2 Feb, 05:05, Epicentre wrote:

I'm fairly certain it happened in 1979 when I had to walk back from Camden
Town to Stoke Newington one evening


Still suspended, though roads in London are perfectly passable. The
effect of this has been the closure of an awful lot of places (shops
in stations and the likes) normally staffed by lower-paid workers who
would most likely go to work by bus. The Tube is also operating very
little, probably due to staffing issues caused by same.

It's very poorly thought-out - they should really have looked at
operating what was OK rather than just cutting everything.

Neil

"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On 2 Feb, 05:05, Epicentre wrote:

I'm fairly certain it happened in 1979 when I had to walk back from
Camden
Town to Stoke Newington one evening


Still suspended, though roads in London are perfectly passable. The
effect of this has been the closure of an awful lot of places (shops
in stations and the likes) normally staffed by lower-paid workers who
would most likely go to work by bus. The Tube is also operating very
little, probably due to staffing issues caused by same.

It's very poorly thought-out - they should really have looked at
operating what was OK rather than just cutting everything.

Neil

According to Howard Collins, COO of London Transport, buses were taken off
last night on the advice of the Met. Police (interview on LBC news)

MaxB

On 2 Feb, 09:22, "Batman55" wrote:

According to Howard Collins, COO of London Transport, buses were taken off
last night on the advice of the Met. Police (interview on LBC news)

I don't know what conditions were like last night, so this may or may
not be justified. It isn't justified that there is no service in
central London this morning.

Neil

On 2 Feb, 09:34, Neil Williams wrote:

On 2 Feb, 09:22, "Batman55" wrote:

According to Howard Collins, COO of London Transport, buses were taken off
last night on the advice of the Met. Police (interview on LBC news)

I don't know what conditions were like last night, so this may or may
not be justified. *It isn't justified that there is no service in
central London this morning.


Things were starting to get messy last night. Lots of sirens
presumably because of lots of smashes on the roads - I saw one.
Conditions in central London should not be taken as being indicative
of those elsewhere.

On 2 Feb, 09:41, Mizter T wrote:

Things were starting to get messy last night. Lots of sirens
presumably because of lots of smashes on the roads - I saw one.
Conditions in central London should not be taken as being indicative
of those elsewhere.

So you operate what *is* safe with some terminating short. One
assumes that not every bus garage was unable to get anything out and
into central London - and the Red Arrows operate from a garage in
Central London (don't they?) so they at least should be out.

Neil

In message
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Neil Williams writes
On 2 Feb, 09:41, Mizter T wrote:

Things were starting to get messy last night. Lots of sirens
presumably because of lots of smashes on the roads - I saw one.
Conditions in central London should not be taken as being indicative
of those elsewhere.

So you operate what *is* safe with some terminating short. One
assumes that not every bus garage was unable to get anything out and
into central London - and the Red Arrows operate from a garage in
Central London (don't they?) so they at least should be out.

One fact *might* be staff getting to the garage, of course.
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

In message
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Mizter T writes

On 2 Feb, 09:34, Neil Williams wrote:

On 2 Feb, 09:22, "Batman55" wrote:

According to Howard Collins, COO of London Transport, buses were taken off
last night on the advice of the Met. Police (interview on LBC news)

I don't know what conditions were like last night, so this may or may
not be justified. *It isn't justified that there is no service in
central London this morning.


Things were starting to get messy last night. Lots of sirens
presumably because of lots of smashes on the roads - I saw one.
Conditions in central London should not be taken as being indicative
of those elsewhere.

Travel West Midlands (not normally an organisation capable of giving
advice to London) are running this morning, at least on the main roads
and certainly with delays. Of course, I'm up here today and not in
London so can't fully compare conditions. However, there's more snow
here than we've had for a long time.

A blanket removal of buses seems unjustified to my (largely untrained)
mind. London needs to be able to get around.
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

In article ,
(Ian Jelf) wrote:

In message
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Mizter T writes

On 2 Feb, 09:34, Neil Williams wrote:

On 2 Feb, 09:22, "Batman55" wrote:

According to Howard Collins, COO of London Transport, buses were
taken off last night on the advice of the Met. Police (interview
on LBC news)

I don't know what conditions were like last night, so this may or may
not be justified. *It isn't justified that there is no service in
central London this morning.

Things were starting to get messy last night. Lots of sirens
presumably because of lots of smashes on the roads - I saw one.
Conditions in central London should not be taken as being indicative
of those elsewhere.

Travel West Midlands (not normally an organisation capable of
giving advice to London) are running this morning, at least on the
main roads and certainly with delays. Of course, I'm up here
today and not in London so can't fully compare conditions.
However, there's more snow here than we've had for a long time.

A blanket removal of buses seems unjustified to my (largely
untrained) mind. London needs to be able to get around.

I think you'll find that there's rather more snow in London and the South
East than in Brum. In particular, the third rail network seems to be in
big trouble.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 2 Feb, 10:43, Ian Jelf wrote:

Travel West Midlands (not normally an organisation capable of giving
advice to London) are running this morning, at least on the main roads
and certainly with delays. * Of course, I'm up here today and not in
London so can't fully compare conditions. * However, there's more snow
here than we've had for a long time.

The snow was about twice as deep in London as Milton Keynes.

Notably, though, MK Metro operated (to a fashion) on the day about 3-4
years ago when there was heavy snowfall and the Council forgot to grit
until it was too late, making all the roads (including main ones) in
MK a skating rink. That said, I was surprised they did, as the bus I
got (after an hour of waiting) was sliding around to a ridiculous
extent, and would have hit things a few times had there been a normal
number of cars out.

Neil