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"Tom Barry" wrote ...
The latest additions were as recent as last month. I'm pretty sure than none were agreed before the contact went to Go-Ahead, and three months ago, the expectation was that no more would be used in London (barring fires, accidents, etc)(!). Where's this from? My running total from londonbusroutes shows PVR of 356 in December and 355 now, with one fewer on the 207. Buses, March 2009 - probably went to press round about 10th Feb. Thanks. May have to buy a copy, although if I do so regularly in addition to my usual railway periodicals my other half will probably leave. It was a throway line in the bit about tender results: "Ironically, the number of artics in London has climbed to its highest total, after Arriva London North and First London each took a former Selkent one to meet increased scheduled requirements." A |
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Andrew Heenan wrote:
"Ironically, the number of artics in London has climbed to its highest total, after Arriva London North and First London each took a former Selkent one to meet increased scheduled requirements." Surely Boris has only suggested Bendies will be got rid of when Borismaster is available, not before. |
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John Rowland wrote:
Surely Boris has only suggested Bendies will be got rid of when Borismaster is available, not before. Let's ask him, shall we? From Mayor's Question Time 16/07/2008: Q: Given the considerable challenge of replacing 388 “bendy” buses with 540 new Routemaster Mark 2 buses before 2012, will you prioritise withdrawing ‘bendies’ from routes involving narrow roads and sharp turns? Can you itemise your objections to operating articulated buses on long straight routes where there is high demand, such as the Old Kent Road, the Mile End Road, and Uxbridge Road? A: You seem to have misunderstood my commitment- articulated buses will not be directly replaced with 21st Century Routemasters as the process of phasing them out will not necessarily be coterminous with the delivery of a new Routemaster. TfL is planning to replace articulated buses with standard double deckers in line with my manifesto commitment on a route-by-route basis as their contracts come to an end. This is the most cost effective approach to replacing this vehicle type and avoids amending existing contracts with the various operators, which would be a costly exercise. It also ensures that appropriate options for double-deck services can be designed and consulted on before implementation, in the usual way. This strategy will be revisited when the new design of bus becomes available. http://mqt.london.gov.uk/mqt/public/...on.do?id=22580 [this is of course before people pointed out that the 507 and 521 can't be replaced by double deckers, so it's best seen as the earliest post-election expression of a muddled policy] My suggeted dateline says that the earliest possible bendy-to-RM conversion would be the 207, but that's due in April 2012, bang in the middle of the election campaign. I recall Paul saying earlier that major changes aren't made during the campaign in case the incumbent gains a political advantage by scheduling delivery of projects as part of his re-election campaign. In any case, the 207 is a special case, being the only bendy route entirely outside the central London area. I'm not sure Boris put the whole thing in train for the benefit of the inhabitants of Shepherd's Bush and Southall, but there you go, should have looked into it more. Given that, it's unlikely *any* routes will go from bendies to RMs in Boris's first term, in fact it's far from clear that enough will be available for more than a token service somewhere in the first months of 2012 - of course it might be that they create an entirely new route for them. There'll be a substantial number of bendies running at the time of the election, almost certainly more than the number of Routemasters unless something amazing happens to their delivery schedule, like coming into full production in the second half of 2011. On which note, I notice Wrightbus are laying off staff. Doesn't sound like the bus industry is gearing up to build the thing, frankly. Survival mode seems likely - Boris might be best advised to put money* into a larger hybrid order to keep people employed rather than twiddling for three years waiting for his vanity project. Tom * the £3.5m extra premium paid for debendifying the first three bendy routes, for instance. |
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