In message , at 19:55:14
on Thu, 26 Mar 2009, remarked:
I've avoided using buses in London most of my life. In fact despite
periods when I've been travelling three days a week in the centre
of London I honestly can't remember when I last caught a bus. Maybe
30 years ago. A combination of tube and walking is fine.

You must have a different pattern of London journeys from me then. I have
one routing which is far better by bus than the alternatives, between
King's Cross station and the Blackfriars Road.

From the Blakfriars area I'd take a Thameslink train; or walk to
Farringdon and take the tube. Blackfriars Rd is a tricky one - I'd
probably walk to Waterloo.
--
Roland Perry

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:55:14 -0500,
wrote:

You must have a different pattern of London journeys from me then. I have
one routing which is far better by bus than the alternatives, between
King's Cross station and the Blackfriars Road.

That's an unusual one. But others are "better" in some ways even
though they take longer, as you at least get a seat rather than being
rammed in someone's armpits on the horrid Northern Line,

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
19:55:14 on Thu, 26 Mar 2009, remarked:
I've avoided using buses in London most of my life. In fact despite
periods when I've been travelling three days a week in the centre
of London I honestly can't remember when I last caught a bus. Maybe
30 years ago. A combination of tube and walking is fine.

You must have a different pattern of London journeys from me then. I
have one routing which is far better by bus than the alternatives,
between King's Cross station and the Blackfriars Road.

From the Blakfriars area I'd take a Thameslink train; or walk to
Farringdon and take the tube. Blackfriars Rd is a tricky one - I'd
probably walk to Waterloo.

You've overlooked Southwark tube but it's quicker to King's Cross by bus,
well, at weekends which is when I mainly make the journey anyway. The 45
and 63 benefit from the City being empty at weekends.

The new South Bank entrance to Blackfriars will make Thameslink more
attractive but at present the speeds are incredibly leisurely.

On a different point, where did the present-day 45 come from? I just
recalled that it was an RTW route to South Kensington in my youth. The 63
looks like it goes back to those days.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:55:14 -0500,
wrote:

You must have a different pattern of London journeys from me then. I
have one routing which is far better by bus than the alternatives,
between King's Cross station and the Blackfriars Road.

That's an unusual one. But others are "better" in some ways even
though they take longer, as you at least get a seat rather than being
rammed in someone's armpits on the horrid Northern Line,

I was pleasantly surprised to get the N10 from Putney to Euston early one
morning earlier this year. Train was not an option to catch my train at
Euston and the roads were empty.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , Neil Williams
writes
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:55:14 -0500,
wrote:

You must have a different pattern of London journeys from me then. I have
one routing which is far better by bus than the alternatives, between
King's Cross station and the Blackfriars Road.

That's an unusual one.

Charing Cross to Millbank (Tate Britain) is one where I find the bus
always the best option. Others include Saint Paul's to Aldwych (except
at very busy times) and from almost anywhere to Smithfield!

(However, as usual, I concede I have an "unusually varied" travel
pattern!)

But others are "better" in some ways even
though they take longer, as you at least get a seat rather than being
rammed in someone's armpits on the horrid Northern Line,

Yes, unless very much in a hurry or it's the middle of rush hour, there
are many other journeys where I prefer to the bus. London is one of
the world's greatest cities; I do like to look at it from time to time!
:-)
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

In message , at 04:25:53
on Fri, 27 Mar 2009, remarked:
From the Blakfriars area I'd take a Thameslink train; or walk to
Farringdon and take the tube. Blackfriars Rd is a tricky one - I'd
probably walk to Waterloo.

You've overlooked Southwark tube

I haven't, but it's on an east-west line so feels "wrong". What with
changing at Waterloo it's probably quicker to walk to Waterloo in the
first place.
--
Roland Perry

"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
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In message , Neil Williams
writes
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:55:14 -0500,
wrote:

You must have a different pattern of London journeys from me then. I have
one routing which is far better by bus than the alternatives, between
King's Cross station and the Blackfriars Road.

That's an unusual one.

Charing Cross to Millbank (Tate Britain) is one where I find the bus
always the best option. Others include Saint Paul's to Aldwych (except
at very busy times) and from almost anywhere to Smithfield!


Holborn to Waterloo works better by bus as well

tim

In message ,
writes

On a different point, where did the present-day 45 come from? I just
recalled that it was an RTW route to South Kensington in my youth.

Replacement for tram 34 (Blackfriars - Battersea Bridge), started in
1950 and extended from Battersea to South Ken in 1951 (although it
existed for a short period before the war as a Farringdon - Clapham
Common route).

The many later changes are detailed at Ian's Bus Stop:
http://www.busesatwork.co.uk/Routes/045.htm
--
Paul Terry

In message , MLD
writes

So what would he have said about London's weather during the May time
frame?

http://golondon.about.com/od/londonc...alendarmay.htm

Do we actually have to worry about rain and/or need to pack along an
umbrella?

You will probably get *some* rain - bring a waterproof jacket. You can
always buy a cheap umbrella in London if you really need to.
--
Paul Terry

On Mar 27, 9:35*am, wrote:

In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:55:14 -0500,
wrote:

You must have a different pattern of London journeys from me then. I
have one routing which is far better by bus than the alternatives,
between King's Cross station and the Blackfriars Road.

That's an unusual one. *But others are "better" in some ways even
though they take longer, as you at least get a seat rather than being
rammed in someone's armpits on the horrid Northern Line,

I was pleasantly surprised to get the N10 from Putney to Euston early one
morning earlier this year. Train was not an option to catch my train at
Euston and the roads were empty.


So you did take the bus then, good good. I remember you asking about
this journey a while back. Early morning buses can be very quick (and
even not so early morning when considering the weekends, as lots of
people are still in bed!).