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Recliner wrote:
"Andrew Robert Breen" wrote in message

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"Recliner" wrote in message
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Personally, I'd rather ride in a 1967 stock train than the modern
Jubilee and Northern line trains that came from the same factory. I
certainly wouldn't prefer to ride in a 1967 car compared to almost
any modern car[1].

OTOH, I'd avoid any
pre-Mk.3 train like the plague, and off the IC routes would prefer to
shun anything pre-158. If I'm sitting in something as a passenger,
then ride comfort comes very high up the list, and I want seats that
don't wreck my back (equally vital in a car, of course, but then the
'67 design wins there as well, with better seats than anything else
I've come across[2]. And if I'm a passenger, then wind noise and
suspension vibration matter more as well. Modern stock really do win

I rode on the nicely refurbished Mk 1 stock (Royal Scot rake) to Swanage
and thoroughly enjoyed the well-sprung armchairs and copious shiny wood.

Your back obviously has a much higher tolerance of bad seats than mine
does. If the seats in those coaches are anything lke the usual Mk.1
horrors, I'd have had to stand the whole way.

And then there's the noise, harshness and vibration, all there in copious
proportions. I can understand how some (not me!) would like this as an
occasional novelty, but it's not up to the job of day-to-day transport.

And no, polished wood doth not a quality package make (unless it's a boat
by Fairey Marine). The aforementioned 1967 (design..) car was blessedly
free of such nonsense.

--
Andy Breen ~ Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales, Aberystwyth
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