In article
,
(MIG) wrote:

On Apr 14, 3:32*pm, James Farrar wrote:
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om:

By changing at High St or Paddington to a Circle train, a same
platform interchange, this meant the only stairs to be negotiated
were at East Putney (since the King's Cross lift was installed).
Changing at Edgware Road far too often involves crossing the
footbridge and the requirement for that is unpredictable. Now it
will be mandatory much of the time. :-((

The claim is that such changes at Edgware Road will always be cross-
platform.

I presume this will be achieved by the following layout:

Plat 1: H&C/Teacup from Paddington to Baker Street
Plat 2: Teacup from Paddington terminate
Plat 3: Wimbleware from Paddington terminate
Plat 4: H&C/Teacup from Baker Street to Paddington

Possibly with platforms 2 and 3 the other way round; but either way,
passengers who wish to go HSK/NHG/Bayswater to Baker Street or beyond
will be able to know which type of terminating train to get for a
cross-platform.

Sounds like a new meaning of the word "always" of which I was previously
unaware. If I'm on a Wimbleware so either I have to change twice or always
use the footbridge at Edgware Road! In the other direction I have the same
problem for sure if platforms 2 and 3 are the other way round.

Is it still planned to stop half the Wimblewares at HSK off peak? If
so, the platform usage wouldn't be balanced or flexible if they were
still restricted as you suggest.

You mean this "improvement" involves cuts in the District service, too?
That's even worse if so.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article
,
(Mr Thant) wrote:

(* including deliberately loitering while on the look out for the
two "brand new" carriages that were rebuilt from those lost on 7/7)

Oh, which car numbers are they?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote in
:

In article
,
(MIG) wrote:

On Apr 14, 3:32*pm, James Farrar wrote:
wrote
om:

By changing at High St or Paddington to a Circle train, a same
platform interchange, this meant the only stairs to be negotiated
were at East Putney (since the King's Cross lift was installed).
Changing at Edgware Road far too often involves crossing the
footbridge and the requirement for that is unpredictable. Now it
will be mandatory much of the time. :-((

The claim is that such changes at Edgware Road will always be
cross- platform.

I presume this will be achieved by the following layout:

Plat 1: H&C/Teacup from Paddington to Baker Street
Plat 2: Teacup from Paddington terminate
Plat 3: Wimbleware from Paddington terminate
Plat 4: H&C/Teacup from Baker Street to Paddington

Possibly with platforms 2 and 3 the other way round; but either
way, passengers who wish to go HSK/NHG/Bayswater to Baker Street or
beyond will be able to know which type of terminating train to get
for a cross-platform.

Sounds like a new meaning of the word "always" of which I was
previously unaware. If I'm on a Wimbleware

then you're not on a Circle Line train.

In article ,
(James Farrar) wrote:

wrote in
:

In article
,
(MIG) wrote:

On Apr 14, 3:32*pm, James Farrar wrote:
wrote
om:

By changing at High St or Paddington to a Circle train, a same
platform interchange, this meant the only stairs to be negotiated
were at East Putney (since the King's Cross lift was installed).
Changing at Edgware Road far too often involves crossing the
footbridge and the requirement for that is unpredictable. Now it
will be mandatory much of the time. :-((

The claim is that such changes at Edgware Road will always be
cross-platform.

I presume this will be achieved by the following layout:

Plat 1: H&C/Teacup from Paddington to Baker Street
Plat 2: Teacup from Paddington terminate
Plat 3: Wimbleware from Paddington terminate
Plat 4: H&C/Teacup from Baker Street to Paddington

Possibly with platforms 2 and 3 the other way round; but either
way, passengers who wish to go HSK/NHG/Bayswater to Baker Street or
beyond will be able to know which type of terminating train to get
for a cross-platform.

Sounds like a new meaning of the word "always" of which I was
previously unaware. If I'm on a Wimbleware

then you're not on a Circle Line train.

Read what I said. I'm trying to get from East Putney to King's Cross via
the minimum number of stairs. At present I normally only need one
same-platform change, between High St and Paddington.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Apr 14, 8:58 pm, Mr Thant
wrote:
On Apr 14, 5:51 pm, wrote:

Every afternoon day I have seen or used a train heading east from pl.
2; and about 50/50 arriving on pl.3 from the east in the morning.

I've never seen that, and I've spent a fair amount of time there*. I
was under the impression that the outer tracks where the through
platforms and the inner tracks were for terminating Wimblewares. I'll
have to pay closer attention in future.

(* including deliberately loitering while on the look out for the two
"brand new" carriages that were rebuilt from those lost on 7/7)

U

I arrived this a.m. peak Edgeware Road plat.3 on a westbound ... sorry
can't remember if it were a Circle or an H&C.

Didn't use it to leave this earlier afternoon as left office in
another direction and used the Bakerloo station.

--
Nick

On Apr 15, 5:19*pm, wrote:
On Apr 14, 8:58 pm, Mr Thant
wrote:

On Apr 14, 5:51 pm, wrote:

Every afternoon day I have seen or used a train heading east from pl.
2; and about 50/50 arriving on pl.3 from the east in the morning.

I've never seen that, and I've spent *a fair amount of time there*. I
was under the impression that the outer tracks where the through
platforms and the inner tracks were for terminating Wimblewares. I'll
have to pay closer attention in future.

(* including deliberately loitering while on the look out for the two
"brand new" carriages that were rebuilt from those lost on 7/7)

U

I arrived this a.m. peak Edgeware Road plat.3 on a westbound ... sorry
can't remember if it were a Circle or an H&C.

Didn't use it to leave this earlier afternoon as left office in
another direction and used the Bakerloo station.

The only certain thing is that you wouldn't get a terminating train in
the outer platforms.

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In article ,
(James Farrar) wrote:

wrote in
:

In article
,
(MIG) wrote:

On Apr 14, 3:32*pm, James Farrar wrote:
wrote
om:

By changing at High St or Paddington to a Circle train, a same
platform interchange, this meant the only stairs to be
negotiated
were at East Putney (since the King's Cross lift was
installed).
Changing at Edgware Road far too often involves crossing the
footbridge and the requirement for that is unpredictable. Now
it
will be mandatory much of the time. :-((

The claim is that such changes at Edgware Road will always be
cross-platform.

I presume this will be achieved by the following layout:

Plat 1: H&C/Teacup from Paddington to Baker Street
Plat 2: Teacup from Paddington terminate
Plat 3: Wimbleware from Paddington terminate
Plat 4: H&C/Teacup from Baker Street to Paddington

Possibly with platforms 2 and 3 the other way round; but either
way, passengers who wish to go HSK/NHG/Bayswater to Baker Street
or
beyond will be able to know which type of terminating train to
get
for a cross-platform.

Sounds like a new meaning of the word "always" of which I was
previously unaware. If I'm on a Wimbleware

then you're not on a Circle Line train.

Read what I said. I'm trying to get from East Putney to King's Cross
via
the minimum number of stairs. At present I normally only need one
same-platform change, between High St and Paddington.

So in future you'll need two. Big deal.

On Apr 16, 3:50*am, James Farrar wrote:
wrote om:







In article ,
(James Farrar) wrote:

wrote in
om:

In article
,
(MIG) wrote:

On Apr 14, 3:32*pm, James Farrar wrote:
wrote
om:

By changing at High St or Paddington to a Circle train, a same
platform interchange, this meant the only stairs to be
negotiated
were at East Putney (since the King's Cross lift was
installed).
Changing at Edgware Road far too often involves crossing the
footbridge and the requirement for that is unpredictable. Now
it
will be mandatory much of the time. :-((

The claim is that such changes at Edgware Road will always be
cross-platform.

I presume this will be achieved by the following layout:

Plat 1: H&C/Teacup from Paddington to Baker Street
Plat 2: Teacup from Paddington terminate
Plat 3: Wimbleware from Paddington terminate
Plat 4: H&C/Teacup from Baker Street to Paddington

Possibly with platforms 2 and 3 the other way round; but either
way, passengers who wish to go HSK/NHG/Bayswater to Baker Street
or
beyond will be able to know which type of terminating train to *
get
for a cross-platform.

Sounds like a new meaning of the word "always" of which I was
previously unaware. If I'm on a Wimbleware

then you're not on a Circle Line train.

Read what I said. I'm trying to get from East Putney to King's Cross
via
the minimum number of stairs. At present I normally only need one
same-platform change, between High St and Paddington.

So in future you'll need two. Big deal.


Er, no. His point was "same-platform" (or cross-platform would do)
but there will be no way of ensuring that, nor any way of knowing in
advance which platform one will go into at Edgware Road.

If the plan is still to terminate half the Wimbledons at HSK off peak,
more than half the terminators will be Teacups, so it's not likely
they'll always use the same platform.

MIG wrote in news:80e3c4a8-2dbd-4d1d-beed-
:

Er, no. His point was "same-platform" (or cross-platform would do)
but there will be no way of ensuring that, nor any way of knowing in
advance which platform one will go into at Edgware Road.

Er, yes, assuming TfL aren't lying to us.

On Apr 16, 7:24*am, James Farrar wrote:
MIG wrote in news:80e3c4a8-2dbd-4d1d-beed-
:

Er, no. *His point was "same-platform" (or cross-platform would do)
but there will be no way of ensuring that, nor any way of knowing in
advance which platform one will go into at Edgware Road.

Er, yes, assuming TfL aren't lying to us.

So which will have the guaranteed cross-platform interchange, the three
(?) per hour Wimbles or all the Teacups?