Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
09:31:57 on Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Richard J.
remarked:

Wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of Barons Court on the Picc
and replace it with Turnham Green?

No. Baron's Court has more passengers entering and exiting the
station per year (6.7M) than Turnham Green (5.9M).

That's only slightly more, and I wouldn't be surprised if switching the
Piccadilly Line stopping pattern caused a switch of the figures.

And it's not
exactly the sort of area any sane person would drive to on account of
all the major roads.

LOL.

On 20 Apr, 11:51, "John Rowland"
wrote:
That's only slightly more, and I wouldn't be surprised if switching the
Piccadilly Line stopping pattern caused a switch of the figures.

If you wanted to go west on the Piccadilly Line and were starting from
Baron's Court, you'd have a difficult change at Earl's Court. Whereas
Turnham Green has cross-platform changes to the Picc in both
directions.

U

On Apr 20, 12:04*pm, Mr Thant
wrote:

On 20 Apr, 11:51, "John Rowland"
wrote:
That's only slightly more, and I wouldn't be surprised if switching the
Piccadilly Line stopping pattern caused a switch of the figures.

If you wanted to go west on the Piccadilly Line and were starting from
Baron's Court, you'd have a difficult change at Earl's Court. Whereas
Turnham Green has cross-platform changes to the Picc in both
directions.


ITYM "If you wanted to go *east*"...

If you wanted to go *west* from Baron's Court then it's one stop on
the District to Hammersmith where there's cross-platform interchange
with the Picc, and the same applies v.v.

Of course going east from Baron's Court, into central London, would be
the fiddly change.

On Apr 20, 1:22*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Apr 20, 12:04*pm, Mr Thant

wrote:
On 20 Apr, 11:51, "John Rowland"
wrote:
That's only slightly more, and I wouldn't be surprised if switching the
Piccadilly Line stopping pattern caused a switch of the figures.

If you wanted to go west on the Piccadilly Line and were starting from
Baron's Court, you'd have a difficult change at Earl's Court. Whereas
Turnham Green has cross-platform changes to the Picc in both
directions.

ITYM "If you wanted to go *east*"...

If you wanted to go *west* from Baron's Court then it's one stop on
the District to Hammersmith where there's cross-platform interchange
with the Picc, and the same applies v.v.

Of course going east from Baron's Court, into central London, would be
the fiddly change.

If I was going east in those circumstances, I'd still probably do
Hammersmith and back with a footbridge, rather than Earls Court. Not
that I am in favour of not stopping at Barons Court.

On 20 Apr, 13:22, Mizter T wrote:
ITYM "If you wanted to go *east*"...

No, this is the Piccadilly Line we're talking about, where east is
north and east is west and south is west and, one can only assume, at
Baron's Court west is east.

U

On Apr 21, 10:10*am, Mr Thant
wrote:

On 20 Apr, 13:22, Mizter T wrote:

ITYM "If you wanted to go *east*"...

No, this is the Piccadilly Line we're talking about, where east is
north and east is west and south is west and, one can only assume, at
Baron's Court west is east.

U

Fair enough! I remember some slightly ridiculous discussion over what
constituted what direction was "officially" what, with some arguing
that regardless of what the compass might say, what LU said was the
"official" direction meant that is what it was. To which I thought,
balls, East is East!

Mr Thant wrote:
On 20 Apr, 13:22, Mizter T wrote:
ITYM "If you wanted to go *east*"...

No, this is the Piccadilly Line we're talking about, where east is
north and east is west and south is west and, one can only assume, at
Baron's Court west is east.

I don't think so, but at Cockfosters, West is East.

On 21 Apr, 12:34, "John Rowland"
wrote:
I don't think so, but at Cockfosters, West is East.

Yep, passengers heading towards Cockfosters are heading west (even
though the signs say east). Therefore passengers heading from Baron's
Court to Earl's Court - which is also towards Cockfosters - must also
be heading west, whatever the so-called signs say.

U

On Apr 21, 12:45*pm, Mr Thant
wrote:

On 21 Apr, 12:34, "John Rowland"
wrote:
I don't think so, but at Cockfosters, West is East.

Yep, passengers heading towards Cockfosters are heading west (even
though the signs say east). Therefore passengers heading from Baron's
Court to Earl's Court - which is also towards Cockfosters - must also
be heading west, whatever the so-called signs say.

U

And no-one - neither staff nor passengers - wear piccadills either.
Someone's trying to have us on.

John Rowland wrote on 20 April
2009 12:51:57 ...
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
09:31:57 on Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Richard J.
remarked:
Wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of Barons Court on the Picc
and replace it with Turnham Green?
No. Baron's Court has more passengers entering and exiting the
station per year (6.7M) than Turnham Green (5.9M).

That's only slightly more, and I wouldn't be surprised if switching the
Piccadilly Line stopping pattern caused a switch of the figures.

If Barons Court was a little-used station, there might be some merit in
the suggestion that the Picc should stop at Turnham Green instead of at
Barons Court. But it isn't, and those of us who have campaigned for an
all-day stop at TG are not trying to do so by taking away another busy
station's service.

In any case the problem in the short term is the signalling at TG which
is unsuitable for running the peak service reliably if all trains stop
at TG, and the fact that LU are not willing to spend money fiddling with
an old system which is going to be replaced within a few years anyway.
Swapping the situations at TG and Barons Court wouldn't help without
changes to the signalling at *both* locations.

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Richard J.
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