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On Apr 15, 9:29*am, "Mortimer" wrote:
"Marz" wrote in message ... On Apr 15, 1:43 am, Adrian wrote: Still, at least there's nice easy ways to identity and legally deal with the ones driving cars. But that's why you think you can get away with it, isn't it? Would you be a "card-carrying red light jumper" if you had a registration plate and licence to lose? No, thought not. You're a typical bully - trying to hide your cowardice behind a veneer of bluster. Absolutely, I freely admit to taking full advantage of the fact that as a cyclist I am virtually anonymous out on the street and why I may attempt things on the bike that I would never do in my car. Yes, I do want my cake and eat it. The day they shove a GPS enabled RFID up my arse and scanners at every junction is the day I'll stop jumping lights. ==== If ever there was a justification for cyclists being required to have number plates, your attitude provides it. You flout the law because you can get away with it and make it sound like a virtue that you are anonymous. Great, give me the plate, give me the license, give me the piece of paper. So next time some dick in a car tells me to get off the ****ing road I can shove it in their face. Your attitude is contemptible. Thank you, one does try. |
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"Marz" wrote in message
... On Apr 15, 9:29 am, "Mortimer" wrote: "Marz" wrote in message ... On Apr 15, 1:43 am, Adrian wrote: Still, at least there's nice easy ways to identity and legally deal with the ones driving cars. But that's why you think you can get away with it, isn't it? Would you be a "card-carrying red light jumper" if you had a registration plate and licence to lose? No, thought not. You're a typical bully - trying to hide your cowardice behind a veneer of bluster. Absolutely, I freely admit to taking full advantage of the fact that as a cyclist I am virtually anonymous out on the street and why I may attempt things on the bike that I would never do in my car. Yes, I do want my cake and eat it. The day they shove a GPS enabled RFID up my arse and scanners at every junction is the day I'll stop jumping lights. ==== If ever there was a justification for cyclists being required to have number plates, your attitude provides it. You flout the law because you can get away with it and make it sound like a virtue that you are anonymous. Great, give me the plate, give me the license, give me the piece of paper. So next time some dick in a car tells me to get off the ****ing road I can shove it in their face. === Well I can't speak for other drivers but personally I don't want bicycles to get off the road (unless there is a good alternative such as a totally segregated cycle track that avoids conflict with both motor vehicles and pedestrians). All I want is them to behave like human-powered motor vehicles in that they obey all the rules of the road such as stopping at all lights and zebra crossings, not overtaking on the left and not being given any preferential treatment such as their own lane or advance stop lines. Considerate cycling would be a bonus - accepting that because they are slower than motor vehicles they should keep over to the left to make it as easy as possible for faster vehicles to overtake them safely. In other words, I'd like them to behave as thoughtfully and courteously to motor vehicles as I do when I'm cycling. |
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![]() "Steve Firth" wrote in message ... Roger Thorpe wrote: And I assume you didn't mean that someone on this newsgroup really boasts of terrorising pedestrians. At least, that's what I hope you meant, since I've pushed the 'mark all as read' button a few times recently. Brian Robertson and "Marz Jennings" have both boasted about terrorising pedestrians. The recent posts from "Marz", who to me at least is a new one, have suggested that he would do more damage to a ped who deliberately shoulder charged him than he would suffer himself. Is this what you refer to as "terrorising pedestrians"? The general attitude and content of Marz's posts about red light jumping at non-busy crossings have already suggested that he may be a bit of an arse, and probably thought of one by many URC regulars. Why would you want to make things up, or at least deliberately mis-interpret, if you didn't want to exaggerate the misdeeds of a few cyclists purely in order to create divisions? OK, so I know this is usenet and trying to be the most opinionated arse around seems to be the raison d'être for many posting here. If I've got this wrong, then please post the examples of boasts of "terrorising pedestrians". For the same reason as Roger, I may have missed them. Colin |
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On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:15:54 +0100
"Mortimer" wrote: Considerate cycling would be a bonus - accepting that because they are slower than motor vehicles they should keep over to the left to make it as easy as possible for faster vehicles to overtake them safely. You seem to be confusing easy overtaking with safe overtaking ... |
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"Rob Morley" wrote in message
news:20090415161924.2c3527e8@bluemoon... On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:15:54 +0100 "Mortimer" wrote: Considerate cycling would be a bonus - accepting that because they are slower than motor vehicles they should keep over to the left to make it as easy as possible for faster vehicles to overtake them safely. You seem to be confusing easy overtaking with safe overtaking ... There is no reason why safe and easy have to be mutually exclusive. If there is space for a car to give me a few feet of clearance (the same as they'd give the offside of another car that they were overtaking) then that's fine. I've not found that cars try to overtake unsafely by passing very closely to me. Maybe my experiences differ from other cyclists'. |
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On Apr 15, 10:15*am, "Mortimer" wrote:
"Marz" wrote in message ... On Apr 15, 9:29 am, "Mortimer" wrote: "Marz" wrote in message .... On Apr 15, 1:43 am, Adrian wrote: Still, at least there's nice easy ways to identity and legally deal with the ones driving cars. But that's why you think you can get away with it, isn't it? Would you be a "card-carrying red light jumper" if you had a registration plate and licence to lose? No, thought not. You're a typical bully - trying to hide your cowardice behind a veneer of bluster. Absolutely, I freely admit to taking full advantage of the fact that as a cyclist I am virtually anonymous out on the street and why I may attempt things on the bike that I would never do in my car. Yes, I do want my cake and eat it. The day they shove a GPS enabled RFID up my arse and scanners at every junction is the day I'll stop jumping lights. ==== If ever there was a justification for cyclists being required to have number plates, your attitude provides it. You flout the law because you can get away with it and make it sound like a virtue that you are anonymous. Great, give me the plate, give me the license, give me the piece of paper. So next time some dick in a car tells me to get off the ****ing road I can shove it in their face. === Well I can't speak for other drivers but personally I don't want bicycles to get off the road (unless there is a good alternative such as a totally segregated cycle track that avoids conflict with both motor vehicles and pedestrians). All I want is them to behave like human-powered motor vehicles in that they obey all the rules of the road such as stopping at all lights and zebra crossings, not overtaking on the left and not being given any preferential treatment such as their own lane or advance stop lines. Considerate cycling would be a bonus - accepting that because they are slower than motor vehicles they should keep over to the left to make it as easy as possible for faster vehicles to overtake them safely. In other words, I'd like them to behave as thoughtfully and courteously to motor vehicles as I do when I'm cycling. Aye 'n' there's the rub. Use the road, follow the rules, but stay out of my way. |
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