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April 15th 09, 11:38 AM
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Cyclists allowed to run red lights?
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 06:27:09PM -0500, wrote:
Lorries that have warning signs against cycles passing them on the inside are admitting that they are not safe to be allowed on the roads. Does this apply to all warning signs, or just to those possessed by people who you don't like? -- David Cantrell | London Perl Mongers Deputy Chief Heretic Anyone willing to give up a little fun for tolerance deserves neither |
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April 15th 09, 05:07 PM
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April 15th 09, 08:02 PM
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Cyclists allowed to run red lights?
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(Adrian) wrote: gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: Lorries that have warning signs against cycles passing them on the inside are admitting that they are not safe to be allowed on the roads. Does this apply to all warning signs, or just to those possessed by people who you don't like? No, just the ones that admit that the vehicles they are attached to are too dangerous to mix with vulnerable road users. There's nothing inherently "dangerous" about HGVs. They don't hide behind traffic lights before jumping out to savage innocent cyclists. They only pose a danger to those who don't think whilst around them. Sorry, they are dangerous because they either don't have under-run protection like other vehicles or it provides inadequate protection. I've seen too many entirely innocent cyclists and pedestrians killed by them, like one tourist pedestrian on the pavement on a gently curved junction (so no excuse for mounting the kerb) in central Cambridge a year or two back. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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April 15th 09, 08:47 PM
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April 16th 09, 12:50 AM
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Cyclists allowed to run red lights?
In article ,
(Adrian) wrote: gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: There's nothing inherently "dangerous" about HGVs. They don't hide behind traffic lights before jumping out to savage innocent cyclists. They only pose a danger to those who don't think whilst around them. Sorry, they are dangerous because they either don't have under-run protection like other vehicles or it provides inadequate protection. I've seen too many entirely innocent cyclists and pedestrians killed by them, like one tourist pedestrian on the pavement on a gently curved junction (so no excuse for mounting the kerb) in central Cambridge a year or two back. That's still not the vehicle's fault, though. Of course it is. A properly designed vehicle that gets too close to vulnerable road users wouldn't drag them under its wheels and kill them! -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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