In message , Tony Polson
writes
wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:40:14 +0100
Tony Polson wrote:
With automatic transmission, there are only two pedals, both of which
have to be operated using the right foot. So what was your point again?

They don't have to be - left foot braking with an auto can be quite useful
for making a quick getaway at the lights!


You've tried that in a bus, then?

I once travelling on a (London) number 3 bus down Whitehall which
actually *was* driven in such a manner.

I mention that because I generally find bus driving standards in London
to be higher than elsewhere but this one was driven as though either
Graham Hill [1] or Mr. Sulu was at the wheel!

[1] That's showing my age, I suppose!
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:16:23 +0100, Ian Jelf
wrote:

I mention that because I generally find bus driving standards in London
to be higher than elsewhere

Interesting - I find them worse. The binary throttle/brake and sheer
aggressiveness seem particular issues.

Neil

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Neil Williams
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(Neil Williams) wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:16:23 +0100, Ian Jelf
wrote:

I mention that because I generally find bus driving standards in London
to be higher than elsewhere

Interesting - I find them worse. The binary throttle/brake and sheer
aggressiveness seem particular issues.


Sheer aggressiveness almost seems an essential qualification to drive in
London, given the amount of it that drivers of all kinds of vehicles
routinely display. It isn't a place for the faint-hearted. ;-)

On Apr 18, 2:30*pm, Tony Polson wrote:

(Neil Williams) wrote:

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:16:23 +0100, Ian Jelf
wrote:

I mention that because I generally find bus driving standards in London
to be higher than elsewhere

Interesting - I find them worse. *The binary throttle/brake and sheer
aggressiveness seem particular issues.

Sheer aggressiveness almost seems an essential qualification to drive in
London, given the amount of it that drivers of all kinds of vehicles
routinely display. *It isn't a place for the faint-hearted. ;-)

It's called 'assertiveness'.

Mizter T wrote:
On Apr 18, 2:30*pm, Tony Polson wrote:

(Neil Williams) wrote:

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:16:23 +0100, Ian Jelf
wrote:

I mention that because I generally find bus driving standards in London
to be higher than elsewhere

Interesting - I find them worse. *The binary throttle/brake and sheer
aggressiveness seem particular issues.

Sheer aggressiveness almost seems an essential qualification to drive in
London, given the amount of it that drivers of all kinds of vehicles
routinely display. *It isn't a place for the faint-hearted. ;-)

It's called 'assertiveness'.


That probably depends on whether you are doing it, or witnessing it. ;-)

In message , Tony Polson
writes
Sheer aggressiveness almost seems an essential qualification to drive in
London, given the amount of it that drivers of all kinds of vehicles
routinely display. *It isn't a place for the faint-hearted. ;-)

It's called 'assertiveness'.


That probably depends on whether you are doing it, or witnessing it. ;-)
When I was learnt to drive a bus in Bristol we were taught to be
assertive, (and lane correct) to be able to make progress.
--
Clive

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:53:03 +0100, Clive
wrote:

When I was learnt to drive a bus in Bristol we were taught to be
assertive, (and lane correct) to be able to make progress.

But, I assume, not to make your standing passengers go flying by
making rough lane changes and use of full acceleration and full
braking (other than obviously in a genuine emergency)?

If you *were*, then I question the Company's judgement.

Neil

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Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:44:17 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:

It's called 'assertiveness'.

There is a line between assertiveness and aggressiveness. Some London
bus drivers exhibit one, some the other, and with some it will no
doubt depend on how their day was going.

Neil

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Neil Williams
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In message , Tony Polson
writes
(Neil Williams) wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:16:23 +0100, Ian Jelf
wrote:

I mention that because I generally find bus driving standards in London
to be higher than elsewhere

Interesting - I find them worse. The binary throttle/brake and sheer
aggressiveness seem particular issues.


Sheer aggressiveness almost seems an essential qualification to drive in
London, given the amount of it that drivers of all kinds of vehicles
routinely display. It isn't a place for the faint-hearted. ;-)

Er, do either of you ever have cause to travel on NX West Midlands
buses??!!
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

Ian Jelf wrote:
In message , Tony Polson
writes
(Neil Williams) wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:16:23 +0100, Ian Jelf
wrote:

I mention that because I generally find bus driving standards in
London to be higher than elsewhere

Interesting - I find them worse. The binary throttle/brake and
sheer aggressiveness seem particular issues.


Sheer aggressiveness almost seems an essential qualification to
drive in London, given the amount of it that drivers of all kinds of
vehicles routinely display. It isn't a place for the faint-hearted.
;-)

Er, do either of you ever have cause to travel on NX West Midlands
buses??!!

I've heard the trams were introduced because they couldn't stop the bus
drivers doing handbrake turns.