See also

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ondon-bus.html

!

Kev

On Apr 17, 3:23*pm, "Kev Lawrence"
wrote:
See also

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...an-deletes-tou...

!

Indeed, I've just read that in the Guardian - here's a link to their
article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/ap...tourist-photos

The incident appears to have happened at Walthamstow bus station. One
suspects that the police bods in question are likely to have been
PCSOs rather than proper police officers, though that's just
supposition. Whatever, the police really need to get their act in
order.

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:20:16 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:


On Apr 17, 3:23*pm, "Kev Lawrence"
wrote:
See also

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...an-deletes-tou...

!

Indeed, I've just read that in the Guardian - here's a link to their
article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/ap...tourist-photos

The incident appears to have happened at Walthamstow bus station. One
suspects that the police bods in question are likely to have been
PCSOs rather than proper police officers, though that's just
supposition. Whatever, the police really need to get their act in
order.

Seig Heil.

The days of "Gee, I think your policeman are wonderful" died a while
back.

Seig Heil.


This is the government that dares to arrest opposition MPs then
threaten them with life imprisonment just for leaking embarrassing
facts that have a public interest, right to know, and a government
that employs covert surveillance on parents that mistakenly thought
they could have a say as to which school educates their kids

So, where on their concerns might you think rail photographers come?

An un-elected Prime Minister who has opposition politicians arrested,
rubbishes the economy and then claims only he is capable of fixing it.

We're all Zimbabweans now.

In message
, at
11:00:11 on Fri, 17 Apr 2009, remarked:
An un-elected Prime Minister who has opposition politicians arrested,
rubbishes the economy and then claims only he is capable of fixing it.

But hasn't he gone now? Or did I dream him saying in Glasgow the other
day:

"I take full responsibility for what happened - that is why the person
that was responsible went immediately...."
--
Roland Perry

On 17 Apr, 16:20, Mizter T wrote:

The incident appears to have happened at Walthamstow bus station. One
suspects that the police bods in question are likely to have been
PCSOs rather than proper police officers, though that's just
supposition. Whatever, the police really need to get their act in
order.

It is a ridiculous situation, as surely if a crime *had* been
committed the images should *not* be deleted as they are evidence.

It sounds like poorly trained muppets on a power trip.

Neil

On Apr 17, 4:30*pm, Neil Williams wrote:

On 17 Apr, 16:20, Mizter T wrote:

The incident appears to have happened at Walthamstow bus station. One
suspects that the police bods in question are likely to have been
PCSOs rather than proper police officers, though that's just
supposition. Whatever, the police really need to get their act in
order.

It is a ridiculous situation, as surely if a crime *had* been
committed the images should *not* be deleted as they are evidence.

It sounds like poorly trained muppets on a power trip.


Which is, unfortunately, why my suspicion fell on them being PCSOs.
I'm not against the concept of PCSOs as such, but reports of their
(mis)behaviour doesn't always leave one feeling encouraged.

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Mizter T wrote:

Whatever, the police really need to get their act in order.

Oh, you noticed that?

I am really utterly perplexed by how the police maange to get away with
being a bunch of incompetent thugs. Not that there aren't good individual
policemen, but there are certainly some very bad ones, and the
organisation as a whole is a disaster. It just seems that nobody with the
power to do anything about it gives a toss. Or has it just not occurred to
people that things could be any better?

tom

--
Teach us how to die well

Tom Anderson wrote:

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Mizter T wrote:

Whatever, the police really need to get their act in order.

Oh, you noticed that?

I am really utterly perplexed by how the police maange to get away with
being a bunch of incompetent thugs. Not that there aren't good individual
policemen, but there are certainly some very bad ones, and the
organisation as a whole is a disaster. It just seems that nobody with the
power to do anything about it gives a toss. Or has it just not occurred to
people that things could be any better?


The government is well aware of the problem. A couple of years ago it
tried to bounce police forces into merging into a much smaller number of
much larger forces. Unfortunately for the government, the police
rebelled, and so did the local councils whose ineffectual police
authorities may well be at the root of the problem.

I don't pretend to know whether bigger would be better, but the Home
Office seemed to be convinced that it was.

Of course the other problem is police recruitment. There are too many
people of low intelligence in the police. The problem is, attempts to
promote better educated officers to senior positions have been strongly
resisted by less well educated policemen who believe that promotion to
high office is their right, as it had been for many decades.

The police therefore still contain too many ignorant, brutal, racist and
misogynist officers who have no respect for the law and for civil liver
ties in particular. These people are at the root of the problems
policing major demonstrations and are behind the seemingly orchestrated
hostility to people taking photographs.

Tony Polson wrote:
Tom Anderson wrote:

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Mizter T wrote:

Whatever, the police really need to get their act in order.
Oh, you noticed that?

I am really utterly perplexed by how the police maange to get away with
being a bunch of incompetent thugs. Not that there aren't good individual
policemen, but there are certainly some very bad ones, and the
organisation as a whole is a disaster. It just seems that nobody with the
power to do anything about it gives a toss. Or has it just not occurred to
people that things could be any better?


The government is well aware of the problem. A couple of years ago it
tried to bounce police forces into merging into a much smaller number of
much larger forces. Unfortunately for the government, the police
rebelled, and so did the local councils whose ineffectual police
authorities may well be at the root of the problem.

I don't pretend to know whether bigger would be better, but the Home
Office seemed to be convinced that it was.

However, it's interesting that most of the complaints come from the
Metropolitan Police area, the same police force that shot an innocent
man on a tube train, and incidentally the biggest police force in the UK.

One of the arguments against the mergers was the local accountability of
smaller forces.

I'm extremely concerned that this government has allowed the UK to drift
towards being a police state, in the name of "security". I will vote
for any party that has the guts to repeal anti-terror legislation and
reverse the drift towards authoritarianism.
--
Jeremy Double {real address, include nospam}
Rail and transport photos at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmdoubl...7603834894248/