When a tube station or line is closed for planned work (or there's
other unplanned disruption), and TfL advise that tube tickets will be
accepted on local buses, how does the Oyster PAYG system cope?

Wood Green tube's closed this weekend, so instead of walking to the
station, I'm taking a bus to Turnpike Lane. While the cost of two PAYG
singles already take me beyond the z1-3 cap (with a 16-25 railcard),
I'm curious to know what would happen to the bus fare I didn't reach
the cap.

On Apr 19, 8:06*pm, martin wrote:
When a tube station or line is closed for planned work (or there's
other unplanned disruption), and TfL advise that tube tickets will be
accepted on local buses, how does the Oyster PAYG system cope?

Nothing changes.


Wood Green tube's closed this weekend, so instead of walking to the
station, I'm taking a bus to Turnpike Lane. While the cost of two PAYG
singles already take me beyond the z1-3 cap (with a 16-25 railcard),
I'm curious to know what would happen to the bus fare I didn't reach
the cap.

In truth I'd think that trying to devise a procedure whereby
passengers were not charged for travelling on regular local bus
services in such situations would be nightmarishly complex and fraught
with untold potential problems.

Rail replacement bus services are however effectively free to holders
of Oyster cards.

On Apr 19, 11:40*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Apr 19, 8:06*pm, martin wrote:

When a tube station or line is closed for planned work (or there's
other unplanned disruption), and TfL advise that tube tickets will be
accepted on local buses, how does the Oyster PAYG system cope?

Nothing changes.



Wood Green tube's closed this weekend, so instead of walking to the
station, I'm taking a bus to Turnpike Lane. While the cost of two PAYG
singles already take me beyond the z1-3 cap (with a 16-25 railcard),
I'm curious to know what would happen to the bus fare I didn't reach
the cap.

In truth I'd think that trying to devise a procedure whereby
passengers were not charged for travelling on regular local bus
services in such situations would be nightmarishly complex and fraught
with untold potential problems.

Rail replacement bus services are however effectively free to holders
of Oyster cards.

On this point, there's still been no answer on how journey
continuations are managed with replacement buses, including long term
ones.

Is Shadwell and Whitechapel an outerchange with a long time limit?
Does it require touching on the bus?

I was wondering what would have been charged on the DLR recently, but
decided to travel via West Ham and avoid the problem.

In message
,
Mizter T writes

On Apr 19, 8:06*pm, martin wrote:
When a tube station or line is closed for planned work (or there's
other unplanned disruption), and TfL advise that tube tickets will be
accepted on local buses, how does the Oyster PAYG system cope?

Nothing changes.


Wood Green tube's closed this weekend, so instead of walking to the
station, I'm taking a bus to Turnpike Lane. While the cost of two PAYG
singles already take me beyond the z1-3 cap (with a 16-25 railcard),
I'm curious to know what would happen to the bus fare I didn't reach
the cap.

In truth I'd think that trying to devise a procedure whereby
passengers were not charged for travelling on regular local bus
services in such situations would be nightmarishly complex and fraught
with untold potential problems.

Rail replacement bus services are however effectively free to holders
of Oyster cards.

I've always wondered about that last point. Do you touch in at all
(and the touch in is "ignored" by the system) or are you not required to
touch in at all?
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

On 20 Apr, 16:51, Ian Jelf wrote:
In message
,
Mizter T writes





On Apr 19, 8:06*pm, martin wrote:
When a tube station or line is closed for planned work (or there's
other unplanned disruption), and TfL advise that tube tickets will be
accepted on local buses, how does the Oyster PAYG system cope?

Nothing changes.

Wood Green tube's closed this weekend, so instead of walking to the
station, I'm taking a bus to Turnpike Lane. While the cost of two PAYG
singles already take me beyond the z1-3 cap (with a 16-25 railcard),
I'm curious to know what would happen to the bus fare I didn't reach
the cap.

In truth I'd think that trying to devise a procedure whereby
passengers were not charged for travelling on regular local bus
services in such situations would be nightmarishly complex and fraught
with untold potential problems.

Rail replacement bus services are however effectively free to holders
of Oyster cards.

I've always wondered about that last point. * Do you touch in at all
(and the touch in is "ignored" by the system) or are you not required to
touch in at all?
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of Englandhttp://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

The East London Line rail replacement services charge a PAYG fare of
£0.00, as long as you have enough credit on your card for a Zone 2
tube journey.

When Shepherd's Bush was closed, journeys on the 148 were
automatically refunded within a few days.

On Apr 20, 5:34*pm, MatthewD wrote:

On 20 Apr, 16:51, Ian Jelf wrote:

In message
,
Mizter T writes

On Apr 19, 8:06*pm, martin wrote:
When a tube station or line is closed for planned work (or there's
other unplanned disruption), and TfL advise that tube tickets will be
accepted on local buses, how does the Oyster PAYG system cope?

Nothing changes.

Wood Green tube's closed this weekend, so instead of walking to the
station, I'm taking a bus to Turnpike Lane. While the cost of two PAYG
singles already take me beyond the z1-3 cap (with a 16-25 railcard),
I'm curious to know what would happen to the bus fare I didn't reach
the cap.

In truth I'd think that trying to devise a procedure whereby
passengers were not charged for travelling on regular local bus
services in such situations would be nightmarishly complex and fraught
with untold potential problems.

Rail replacement bus services are however effectively free to holders
of Oyster cards.

I've always wondered about that last point. * Do you touch in at all
(and the touch in is "ignored" by the system) or are you not required to
touch in at all?

The East London Line rail replacement services charge a PAYG fare of
£0.00, as long as you have enough credit on your card for a Zone 2
tube journey.

Not true - you can use the ELL replacement buses even if your Oyster
PAYG balance is zero.


When Shepherd's Bush was closed, journeys on the 148 were
automatically refunded within a few days.

Very interesting - I hadn't come across this at all. How was this
implemented?

On 21 Apr, 08:58, Mizter T wrote:
On Apr 20, 5:34*pm, MatthewD wrote:



On 20 Apr, 16:51, Ian Jelf wrote:

In message
,
Mizter T writes

On Apr 19, 8:06*pm, martin wrote:
When a tube station or line is closed for planned work (or there's
other unplanned disruption), and TfL advise that tube tickets will be
accepted on local buses, how does the Oyster PAYG system cope?

Nothing changes.

Wood Green tube's closed this weekend, so instead of walking to the
station, I'm taking a bus to Turnpike Lane. While the cost of two PAYG
singles already take me beyond the z1-3 cap (with a 16-25 railcard),
I'm curious to know what would happen to the bus fare I didn't reach
the cap.

In truth I'd think that trying to devise a procedure whereby
passengers were not charged for travelling on regular local bus
services in such situations would be nightmarishly complex and fraught
with untold potential problems.

Rail replacement bus services are however effectively free to holders
of Oyster cards.

I've always wondered about that last point. * Do you touch in at all
(and the touch in is "ignored" by the system) or are you not required to
touch in at all?

The East London Line rail replacement services charge a PAYG fare of
£0.00, as long as you have enough credit on your card for a Zone 2
tube journey.

Not true - you can use the ELL replacement buses even if your Oyster
PAYG balance is zero.



When Shepherd's Bush was closed, journeys on the 148 were
automatically refunded within a few days.

Very interesting - I hadn't come across this at all. How was this
implemented?

Journey histories were monitored by Oystercard Admin for validations
on route 148 occuring next to a validation at Holland Park. When this
was detected a single bus jourmey refund was generated to be credited
at the customer's most used gateline within a few days.

On Apr 20, 4:51*pm, Ian Jelf wrote:
I've always wondered about that last point. * Do you touch in at all
(and the touch in is "ignored" by the system) or are you not required to
touch in at all?

I've never sure, so I just wander on without looking at the driver or
touching my card. They never seem to care.

(and in fact the last time I got one we were encouraged to board via
the middle doors)

On the rare occasions the Heathrow Express substitutes for the
Piccadilly Line, the conductors are instructed to only see you have an
Oyster card.

U

On Apr 20, 9:31 pm, Mr Thant
wrote:
On the rare occasions the Heathrow Express substitutes for the
Piccadilly Line, the conductors are instructed to only see you have an
Oyster card.

Are the HEX platforms at Paddington gated; and is there anywhere to
touch out at the Heathrow end?

--
Abi

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:54:33 -0700 (PDT), Abigail Brady
wrote:

On Apr 20, 9:31 pm, Mr Thant
wrote:
On the rare occasions the Heathrow Express substitutes for the
Piccadilly Line, the conductors are instructed to only see you have an
Oyster card.

Are the HEX platforms at Paddington gated; and is there anywhere to
touch out at the Heathrow end?

There are no gates or validators at Heathrow or Paddington. The gates
on platforms 2-5 don't seem to accept any kind of Oyster card either.