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OK, haven't been on UTL for years but this is the kind of discussion
that you like, and I cannot really work out what to do!! The facts: (1) I live in Zone 2 and work in Zone 1. (2) I have a Zones 1 and 2 annual travelcard, expiring 30 December 2009, which cost me £968 (Work loaned me the money for it, and I am paying them back monthly out of my salary). (3) From 8 May until 27 July I am going to be living 1 minute from Bowes Park station, British Rail, Zone 3. (4) There is a tube station about 5 minutes away (Bounds Green, Zone 3). However, since I work in Moorgate, if I happen to time it right, I will be more likely to take the train from Bowes Park which goes direct to Moorgate, and will only take tube when I miss the train or there is a problem on the line. Coming back is a different matter, as if I am out in Central London after work, I'll almost certainly get the tube to Bounds Green. Annoyingly, Bowes Park is one of "those" stations that don't have barriers, and I cannot simply put £20 pre-pay on top of my Yearly season ticket on the Oystercard, for those moments when I go out of Zone. What do I do? Option 1: Cancel my Annual ticket, get two monthly and two weekly season tickets for zones 123, then start a new Annual ticket on 28 July. Not what I want to do as that annual ticket will then cost £1032 AND furthermore work don't permit more than one season ticket loan per year, meaning that I'd have to self-finance this one. It would be too much hassle. Furthermore, for those 2 and a half months I'd have to give up my Gold Annual card, which has given me tasty savings on some rail journeys for both me and for my travelling companions around the South Coast. And with sunny weather and Brighton beckoning, those journeys seem more likely than ever. Option 2: Buy an extension every day. Major hassle, especially as I don't always know whether I'm going to go by tube or train, especially with the evening service from Moorgate to Bowes Park being so infrequent (just two an hour). On the one day I tried it (I was travelling Moorgate- Bowes Park-Moorgate last week to view the place), I bought an off-peak journey extension return for £1.80 from Moorgate, then when I got back there were problems on the line and I walked to Bounds Green and I guess money will have come out of my top-up on my Oystercard because I didn't even bother arguing with the ticket people in Bounds Green to ask them whether they'd allow me to use the return portion of the rail ticket on the tube, because of the delays on the train, because I imagine that the delays would have to be much more severe for TfL to give the go-ahead for that, and there was no announcement (it was only a delay of 15 minutes, PLUS the fact that it was 20 minutes for the next train, so I preferred to walk to Bounds Green instead rather than hang around for 35 minutes for a train... and in any case, I wanted to end up that night in central London anyway, so made sense. I guess I *could* have asked them, but just couldn't be bothered. Option 3: Buy a separate Zones 3-4 monthly season ticket for two months, and two weekly ones, at a combined cost of £160.80. Firstly, I never go into zone 4, I don't even know what stations are out there any more. And £160.80 is a terrible waste of money. That, plus the £969 I've already paid for Z12 for the whole year, comes to £1128.80. I may as well have got a Z123 yearly back in December last year!! Why can TfL not issue a Zone 3 monthly season ticket only, at a reduced price? It is particularly expensive when you consider that, by this year's prices, the difference between a Z12 monthly and a Z123 monthly is just £16.90. If I were to go down Option 3, I'd have the option of either buying Z34 on a separate Oyster card, or having it as a separate option on my same card (or so I'm led to believe). Both are frought with problems. Option 3a: Two separate Oyster cards? Which would also mean that I'd end up with daily "unfinished" journeys originating in Zone 3, and daily "unfinished" journeys originating in Zone 1, and I can just see the barriers eventually going mental and not letting me though and I have to clear it every time to the inspectors and explain this complicated arrangement. Furthermore, I'd need to remember which blue plastic card is the one I use in the morning, and which one is one I use in the evening. And I know that, after a few drinks especially, I'll end up touching out at Bounds Green with my Z12 travelcard, and lose an unnecessary pound or so from my emergency prepay top-up, whilst having a valid Z34 travelcard in the other pocket. And then trying to claim it back, oh god.... Option 3b: Have them both on the same card? Yes, I believe they can do this, HOWEVER when you touch in at Moorgate and then touch out at Bounds Green, will it really know that you are using Z12 for touching in and Z34 for touching out, or will it use Z12 for touching in and my emergency prepay topup for touching out? I wouldn't like to put it to the test. I don't think the system is that clever. Option 4. Is there one? Is it possible, for example, to pay £16.90 every month (which is the difference between a Z12 and Z123 monthly) and somehow make the system accept my Oystercard, for 1 month at a time, as working in Zone 3, both at tube stations and at non-barriered rail stations? If there is this magic Option 4, for which I have not had much luck in finding information about on the various official websites, then that would be wonderful. If not, then any advice would be very much appreciated. Thanks Tristán (formerly, very much a UTL regular!) PS don't reply to email, I never check it as I use it ONLY for Usenet posting and for forum membership authentication, and hence it's just full of spam. :-) |
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