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On May 5, 8:40 am, "Pat O'Neill" wrote:
http://patrickoneill204.fotopic.net/p58004145.html

"Perfick", beautiful. These remind me of my teenage years in London.
The '38 stock was truly iconic.

I saw the Standard stock in NSE. Must say that it seemed to work to my eye.
I find the yellow front, just a solid colour block set against the red quite
overwhelming. A little bit of lining and styling to soften the edginess I
think would serve the stock well. The fronts used to be red, so perhaps the
yellow could actually be made into 3 rounded cornered rectangles occupying
most of the front surface.

DW down under

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Charles Ellson wrote:

AFAIR another reason for the continuing use of older tube stock is
that the motors and underfloor equipment on newer types would need
extra protection against salt spray at Ryde Pier, the alternative
being truncation of the service away from the sea.


Yet the busiest sector of the Island Line - by far - is the one
between Ryde Pier and Ryde Esplanade.

Have they thought of perhaps running some sort of shuttle service from
Ryde Pier Head to Ryde Esplanade, allowing passengers to transfer to
other rolling stock? My guess is that this would not really be
feasible, however.

There used to be a tramway shuttle that did exactly that back in the dim
and distant. The tracks were between the railway line proper and the
roadway out to the pierhead.

Something like the Hythe Pier Railway?

IIRC both utilised petrol engined traction.

Why don't they do that, if corrosion is going to be such a concern on newer
models?



You've still got corosion problems for a tram, if you can solve that you can
presumably solve it for a train.

--
Graeme Wall

This address not read, substitute trains for rail
Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

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"rail" wrote in message
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"Tony Polson" wrote in message
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Charles Ellson wrote:

AFAIR another reason for the continuing use of older tube stock
is
that the motors and underfloor equipment on newer types would
need
extra protection against salt spray at Ryde Pier, the alternative
being truncation of the service away from the sea.


Yet the busiest sector of the Island Line - by far - is the one
between Ryde Pier and Ryde Esplanade.

Have they thought of perhaps running some sort of shuttle service
from
Ryde Pier Head to Ryde Esplanade, allowing passengers to transfer to
other rolling stock? My guess is that this would not really be
feasible, however.

There used to be a tramway shuttle that did exactly that back in the
dim
and distant. The tracks were between the railway line proper and the
roadway out to the pierhead.

Something like the Hythe Pier Railway?

IIRC both utilised petrol engined traction.

Why don't they do that, if corrosion is going to be such a concern on
newer
models?



You've still got corosion problems for a tram, if you can solve that you
can
presumably solve it for a train.

--
Graeme Wall

This address not read, substitute trains for rail
Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

You know, a horse-drawn wooden tram (I originally wrote wooden horse tram,
hmmm ... ) would be very much a touristy, novelty thing. No problems with
tripcocks, corrosion - well it can be dealt with. If Victor Harbour in South
Australia can have one out across a jetty/bridge/pier type structure, so can
the Isle of Wight. Of course, the animal libbers could end up lying across
the tracks - unless you perhaps had a lovely Clydesdale there with a brewery
dray and a nice drop on tap!! In which case they'd still be lying across the
tracks, paralytic rather than politic.

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"DW downunder" noname wrote:

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You know, a horse-drawn wooden tram (I originally wrote wooden horse tram,
hmmm ... )

As used in Troy?

would be very much a touristy, novelty thing. No problems with
tripcocks, corrosion - well it can be dealt with. If Victor Harbour in
South Australia can have one out across a jetty/bridge/pier type
structure, so can the Isle of Wight. Of course, the animal libbers could
end up lying across the tracks

Promise?

*- unless you perhaps had a lovely
Clydesdale there with a brewery dray and a nice drop on tap!! In which
case they'd still be lying across the tracks, paralytic rather than
politic.



The trouble is the island beer is much what you would expect from a
Clydesdale :-(

I've now posted the promised pics of the Standard Stock (class 485) on the
island. Also a couple of shots of the 1938 stock in Network South East
livery.

http://my.fotopic.net/collection/01694014/index.html

t the same time I've posted a collection of oictures of the colourful Hong
Kong trams at:

http://my.fotopic.net/collection/01693996/index.html

--
Graeme Wall

This address not read, substitute trains for rail
Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

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"DW downunder" noname wrote:

[snip]
You know, a horse-drawn wooden tram (I originally wrote wooden horse
tram,
hmmm ... )

As used in Troy?

would be very much a touristy, novelty thing. No problems with
tripcocks, corrosion - well it can be dealt with. If Victor Harbour in
South Australia can have one out across a jetty/bridge/pier type
structure, so can the Isle of Wight. Of course, the animal libbers could
end up lying across the tracks

Promise?

- unless you perhaps had a lovely
Clydesdale there with a brewery dray and a nice drop on tap!! In which
case they'd still be lying across the tracks, paralytic rather than
politic.



The trouble is the island beer is much what you would expect from a
Clydesdale :-(

Are you suggesting animal libbers are discerning about their ales?



I've now posted the promised pics of the Standard Stock (class 485) on the
island. Also a couple of shots of the 1938 stock in Network South East
livery.

http://my.fotopic.net/collection/01694014/index.html


It wanted me to login .... sure the URL's correct? Likewise for the next
one ....

t the same time I've posted a collection of oictures of the colourful Hong
Kong trams at:

http://my.fotopic.net/collection/01693996/index.html

--
Graeme Wall

This address not read, substitute trains for rail
Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

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rail wrote:

[snip]

I've now posted the promised pics of the Standard Stock (class 485) on the
island. Also a couple of shots of the 1938 stock in Network South East
livery.

Doh! That should be:


http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/collection/1694014/index.html

t the same time I've posted a collection of pictures of the colourful Hong
Kong trams at:

And this should be:


http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/collection/1693996/index.html


--
Graeme Wall

This address not read, substitute trains for rail
Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

"rail" wrote in message
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In message
rail wrote:

[snip]

I've now posted the promised pics of the Standard Stock (class 485) on
the
island. Also a couple of shots of the 1938 stock in Network South East
livery.

Doh! That should be:


http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/collection/1694014/index.html


And it gets us:

404: Page Not found
We're sorry but we couldn't find the file you requested:
http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/colle...014/index.html
So either it doesn't exist, or it's been moved.

If you're looking for a particular person's gallery, you could try looking
at
our Community section, or alternatively take a look at the main Fotopic
site.


t the same time I've posted a collection of pictures of the colourful
Hong
Kong trams at:

And this should be:


http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/collection/1693996/index.html


and that got:

404: Page Not found
We're sorry but we couldn't find the file you requested:
http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/colle...996/index.html
So either it doesn't exist, or it's been moved.

If you're looking for a particular person's gallery, you could try looking
at
our Community section, or alternatively take a look at the main Fotopic site


I'd love to see them. Should bring back memories.

David down under


--
Graeme Wall

This address not read, substitute trains for rail
Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

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"DW downunder" noname wrote:


"rail" wrote in message
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In message
rail wrote:

[snip]

I've now posted the promised pics of the Standard Stock (class 485) on
the
island. Also a couple of shots of the 1938 stock in Network South East
livery.

Doh! That should be:


http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/collection/1694014/index.html


And it gets us:

404: Page Not found
[snip]

Brain is obviously in neutral today, third time lucky:

Isle of Wight tube trains at:

http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/c1694014.html

Hong Kong Trams at:

http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/c1693996.html

Or follow the links from the page in my sig.

--
Graeme Wall

This address not read, substitute trains for rail
Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

I doubt there are many scrap value 70 year old
trams for cheap sale like their were tube trains

Budapest's BKV are in the process of modernising their hideously
antiquated tram & metro system - most of the (soon-to-be) redundant
stock is approaching 70 years old ...

M

On May 7, 4:26*am, "DW downunder" noname wrote:
"1506" wrote in message

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On May 5, 8:40 am, "Pat O'Neill" wrote:

http://patrickoneill204.fotopic.net/p58004145.html

"Perfick", beautiful. *These remind me of my teenage years in London.
The '38 stock was truly iconic.

I saw the Standard stock in NSE. Must say that it seemed to work to my eye.
I find the yellow front, just a solid colour block set against the red quite
overwhelming. A little bit of lining and styling to soften the edginess I
think would serve the stock well. The fronts used to be red, so perhaps the
yellow could actually be made into 3 rounded cornered rectangles occupying
most of the front surface.

DW down under

Pount taken. I wish they did not have the yellow ends.