"Paul Weaver" wrote in message
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On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:31:32 +0000, Chris Jones wrote:
Don't be silly, we're nowhere near that. I don't think the motorway
network
even takes up 1% of the land in this country, there's plenty of space
for
more.

Motorways take about 50 square miles of the UK - 0.05% of the total land
area.


So?????

wrote:

"Paul Weaver" wrote:

Chris Jones wrote:

Don't be silly, we're nowhere near that. I don't think the motorway
network even takes up 1% of the land in this country, there's
plenty of space for more.

Motorways take about 50 square miles of the UK - 0.05% of the total
land area.

So?????

So it makes you look pretty silly when you ranted: "So where do you stop,
when the whole country is one great network of
asphalt???", doesn't it?

"JNugent" wrote in message
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wrote:

It seems to me that all of the privatised industries that were sold
off were making a loss at the time of sale, however they are now
making a profit. Why couldnt this have been done while they were
nationalised????

In a nutshell, because they were run by public servants who were asking
themselves the wrong questions, knew they could rely on losses to be made
up
by the taxpayer and were not incentivised to provide optimum solutions.

Hang on, you are a public servant too, aren't you?



No I am not I am a civil engineer working in the private sector (one of the
most cut throat industries there are ie construction)

"Paul Weaver" wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 09:59:51 +0000, iantheengineer wrote:
What about all the other people???? Do you forget the miners strikes
when

I don't much care. You see in the private industry if your company doesnt
sell Cheaply, it goes bust, shareholders lose big time, normal workers
move to other industries, they adapt, or should.

good ol MT decided to close all of the pits so we imported cheap coal
from Africa. Now most of the pits have closed Africas coal price has
risen dramatically, oh yeah she was an absolute genius! Any 5 year old
could have seen that coming

Of course instead of depleteing our coal reserves we still have them, so
in 50 years When there's hardly any left, we can reopen the pits and make
big bucks.

Okay who is going to fund the re-opening of the flooded and unsafe mines???

You??

iantheengineer wrote:

Speed humps are used to prevent speeding idiots and save lives. Do you
REALLY think that a local authority with limited funds would waste it
n putting in humps for the sake of it.

Yes. Otherwise why do we see speed humps being installed while at the same
time the roads are full of potholes?

And they don't save lives. Ask the Ambulance Service.

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"If laws are to be respected, they must be worthy of respect."

"JNugent" wrote in message
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wrote:

[this is a good'un!:]

Do you forget the miners strikes
when good ol MT decided to close all of the pits so we imported cheap
coal from Africa. Now most of the pits have closed Africas coal price
has risen dramatically, oh yeah she was an absolute genius! Any 5
year old could have seen that coming

History: 0/10
Geography: 0/10.


Yeah whatever I think you will find I am right

jasonr (Jason Rumney) @ f2s.com wrote in message
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"iantheengineer" writes:

How much delay depends upon the designer and the type of control,
whether it is fixed or adaptive. All modern schemes are adaptive,
MOVA, micro proceesor optimized vehicle actuation is now the
standard method of control for isolated junctions

When the traffic lights at Chiswick Roundabout were upgraded last
year, tailbacks on the Eastbound A4 quadrupled. The "optimized"
controller was routinely letting the southbound North Circular traffic
onto the roundabout at the same time as the eastbound A4, with the
result that only 3 or 4 cars from each lane could get off the A4 on
each cycle. I am not convinced that MOVA lights are an improvement on
the fixed cycle synchronized lights that started becoming popular 20
years ago.

Its all depends on the set up . MoVA is better , about 13% on average but it
all depends on them being set up right.

wrote:

"JNugent" wrote:

wrote:

[this is a good'un!:]

Do you forget the miners strikes
when good ol MT decided to close all of the pits so we imported
cheap coal from Africa. Now most of the pits have closed Africas
coal price has risen dramatically, oh yeah she was an absolute
genius! Any 5 year old could have seen that coming

History: 0/10
Geography: 0/10.

Yeah whatever I think you will find I am right

But that is not possible, given that you are so wrong.

Re-read the history of the 1980s.

"Robin May" wrote in message
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"iantheengineer" wrote the following
in:


"Robin May" wrote in message
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"Chris Jones" wrote the following
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If the North/South Circulars had been built properly as 3-4
lane motorways, people living in London wouldn't need to use
the M25 to get from one part to another, and it would do what
it was designed for - cater for long-distance traffic.

The North Circular's not that bad. Apart from a few dodgy bits
where it gets very congested or narrows down to single
carriageway, it's generally alright.

Investment in public transport is whats required, something else
MT ran into the ground

Well, yes, but I don't see what that has to do with my post. Could you
explain?

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message by Robin May

Many of the people using the M25 are using it to hop where in actual fact
they could get public transport direct. I agree entirely with you. An
alternate would be though to support public transport to provide for these
hops.

"PeterE" wrote in message
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iantheengineer wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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iantheengineer wrote:

When labour came to power the country had no money.

********.

No not ******** FACT

No, ********.

In 1997 Gordon Brown inherited the healthiest financial situation of any
post-war Chancellor.

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Please prove this point and I will accept it, however I have to ask why you
think this???

and at what expense??

My shed is completely knackered, and so is my garden fence but Ive got loads
in the bank??? Whey HEy good times, oh **** my shed and fence have just
fallen down. Must spend all the money...Now Im not so happy


Do I have to give ANOTHER economics lesson!!!
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"If laws are to be respected, they must be worthy of respect."