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Professor Unwin, I assure you that around here I can show you stone
(most likely millstone grit) walls that have deflected (The stones
have bent it's not that the all the motor joints have broken and the
wall is just a collection of stones in formation) by about an inch in a
5 foot run under their own weight and the weight of the stones above them.

DG

As a totally uneducated moron, please explain the connexion between
deflected walls and railways?
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On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:37:59 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper"
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I would challenge your argument. in my view both Oxford and Brighton have
very efficient bus services, at reasonable prices like £2.40 or £2.70 for a
day ticket. Edinburgh has a similar arrangement, but cheaper, I believe. In
all of these, bus use is driven by the car-unfriendly nature of the cities.


....while MK has a poor bus service because it is very car-friendly,
despite the Council's best efforts to stop this.

Smaller towns, however, don't come off well.

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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:06:22 +0000, Clive
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In message , derek
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Professor Unwin, I assure you that around here I can show you stone
(most likely millstone grit) walls that have deflected (The stones
have bent it's not that the all the motor joints have broken and the
wall is just a collection of stones in formation) by about an inch in a
5 foot run under their own weight and the weight of the stones above them.

DG

As a totally uneducated moron, please explain the connexion between
deflected walls and railways?


To be honest you'd be better asking that in uk.railway. This is a
thread about Britain's Crap Roads. ;-)

DG
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"iantheengineer" wrote in message
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"Philip Bradshaw" wrote in message
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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iantheengineer wrote:

I actually work for a consultancy and not a local authority,

Name them so I can cross them off the list of places we do business
with.

Sounds like a good move; my understanding is that anyone still using pcu

is
a tad out-dated.



Hmmm I suggest you are wrong the pcu is still in valid use,


As measure of the impact of larger vehicles on road congestion perhaps, a
measure introduced long before bus lanes became common.
In your expecting 900bus/hour/lane?
Oh my.
I would have thought a consultant engineer choosing to opine on buses would
have breadth of knowledge sufficient to recognise operational capacity as
relevant and have regard to demerits like block-back and junction capacity
reduction caused by bus lanes.
No matter; each to their specialities.
Drains was it?

ask the authors
of Arcady, Picady and Linsig for starters, they all use pcus as well as

all
of the base formulae behind them

Indeed.
Your use of pcu..?

Welcome to uk.transport BTW.

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To commute is to waste, in both time and resources, the more we
reduce commuting the easier it will be for the people who have
to travel to get around.


True. Nobody likes commuting to work, I'd rather not have to do it. But with
the way the job market is these days, I can't just keep moving house every
time I change jobs, or I'd never get the chance to settle down anywhere.


Let's step outside this for the moment, even if you live next door to
your work, you are still commuting. It's just a matter of distance
surely. The higher paid the job, the longer the commute becomes
viable.
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"Clive" wrote in message
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In message , iantheengineer
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Yes they do I can produce the stats if required from ROSPA that have
been statistically proven to a 90-95% confidence interval, however no
doubt you will doubt these, I have given up with this NG. They seem to
think that government bodies sit thinking of ways to waste momey and
alienate the public, dont you think you are missing the bigger picture???

Who was it said. "There are lies, damn lies and statistics.?
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and there lay another doubting thomas suffocated by the fumes from his own
car as he drove to the oxygen shop


I hope you're not pointing your finger at me... I'd give up my car if
you want to provide the sort of cover and frequency enjoyed in London,
instead of our stagecoach once a week.
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Gritting / salting should only be undertaken when absolutely necessary.
The only guide that is given is the weather forecast, so occasionaly it
gets salted when it doesnt needs it ans not salted when it should.
Salting has to be done when the ice is forming, not before or after. If
you salt too early it gets washed and trafficked off. If you salt too
late you need 40g/m2 as opposed to 15g/m2. Local authorities normally
have a limited stock for the whole winter ( blame the accounting
systems of the country) so they can normally only go out a limited
number of times a year (ridiculous I know) so the decisions are not
taken lightly.

I hope that explains things a little and restores at least a little
confidence in your lha.

Kindly tell Copeland council, they say they have run out of money to pay
for gritting teams in the winter.
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Well yes but as I said before to make it a temporary limit would make
it less likley to be obeyed. I am a parent and I certainly dont speed
in 30/40mph zones never mind 20mph

Instruct the police to do away with variable speed limits and the south
west portion of the M25 then.
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:17:41 +0000, Huge wrote:
And moving jobs closer to home rapidly becomes economically unviable.

Take a 50% pay cut? I think not.


Indeed, not physically viable either. I work in a building that has over
5000 employees working Around the clock, as well as up to 1000 members of
the public. All of those people Are needed within 3 minutes walk from each
other. To house those 5,000 people (plus their family) you need 5,000
homes. 20,000 people also need Shops to shop in, parks to play in, cinemas
to unwind, schools, hospitals, the list goes on.

All of those things then need people working in them.

Before you know it you need a small city to keep one building going -
you'll Have commuting anyway.
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 09:28:56 +0000, Clive wrote:

When North sea gas runs out, what are we going to do then to replace it,
the best source of heat for the community.


Politicians


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