JohnB wrote:
PeterE wrote:

Robin May wrote:
Paul Weaver wrote the following in:
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You can always hire a car too

Are you really trying to say car hire is cheaper than travelling by
train? Are you sane?

If you're talking about standard fares (not discounted ones booked
way in advance) then it certainly is for many longer journeys,
especially if you're taking more than one person.

So you don't phone up and book a hire car in advance?

As I own a car the need doesn't arise. For some business journeys I might
know a couple of days in advance (and what is the fare for booking at 4pm on
Monday to travel at 8 am on Tuesday?). For others I would not know until the
day in question.

A standard class return from Manchester to London is £175 now, you
know.

So what.

It's extremely expensive, that's what.

Are you really trying to say car hire, for two people, is dearer
than that? Are you sane?

Can you get from Manchester to London return same day in a hire car
for less than £20?

Can two people get from Manchester to London and back by train in a day for
less than the cost of hire car plus petrol? Travelling between 7 and 10 am,
and booking three days or less in advance? You're the PT advocate, you tell
us.

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"If laws are to be respected, they must be worthy of respect."

PeterE wrote:

JohnB wrote:
PeterE wrote:

Robin May wrote:
Paul Weaver wrote the following in:
news
You can always hire a car too

Are you really trying to say car hire is cheaper than travelling by
train? Are you sane?

If you're talking about standard fares (not discounted ones booked
way in advance) then it certainly is for many longer journeys,
especially if you're taking more than one person.

So you don't phone up and book a hire car in advance?

As I own a car the need doesn't arise.

ROTFLOL.

A standard class return from Manchester to London is £175 now, you
know.

So what.

It's extremely expensive, that's what.

Yep. And I don't think very many would pay that. I doubt if I would.
Many train fares are ridiculously high.

Are you really trying to say car hire, for two people, is dearer
than that? Are you sane?

Can you get from Manchester to London return same day in a hire car
for less than £20?

Well? Can you?

Can two people get from Manchester to London and back by train in a day for
less than the cost of hire car plus petrol?

So how much is that?

BTW yes I am snipping out your attempts to sidestep the point that many people
have moved on from believing there are no alternatives to the ownership of a
private car.
Seems you have a problem that some people make that choice. Most odd.

John B

"AstraVanMan" wrote in message
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But you don't have to shell out several thousand for a car, money for
road
tax, some for insurance, and more for maintenance of the car.

For long trips or holidays to - say - the lakes, it's probably cheaper to
buy a £200 car with 2 months tax/mot.

Cheaper, maybe. I'd rather keep my eyes peeled for a car anywhere in the
sub-£2k bracket that's particularly well priced for what it is, and
something reasonably well sought after so that it'll be a doddle to sell on
afterwards, rather than restrict myself to a cheap £200 old banger. Having
said that, if you're lucky you can get a car in pretty decent nick for £200.

It's hard but possible, I paid £230 for my current run about ok it's 20 years
old but it's strait relatively low mileage came with 6 months tax and 12 months
MOT and still feels good for another 20 years. Ideal when I don't want to take
my main car to a dodgy area or it's off the road having work done to it.

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:27:06 +0100, "Depresion"
wrote:
It's hard but possible, I paid £230 for my current run about ok it's 20 years
old but it's strait relatively low mileage came with 6 months tax and 12 months
MOT and still feels good for another 20 years. Ideal when I don't want to take
my main car to a dodgy area or it's off the road having work done to it.
I bought a "C"reg Rover 266 EFI VP of a dealer two months ago 70,000
gen miles for 220.00 you cannot tell apart from the milage that the
car didn't come out of a showroom it can only be discribed as
immaculate inside and out . One owner from new who is now 76 years of
age the car has been nursed and waited on hand and foot in fact the
darn thing is toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good for what little
milage I do 38 in the passed week but the price was more than right .
Grant .

JohnB wrote:
PeterE wrote:

A standard class return from Manchester to London is £175 now, you
know.

So what.

It's extremely expensive, that's what.

Yep. And I don't think very many would pay that. I doubt if I would.
Many train fares are ridiculously high.

Indeed, probably because of the basic unviability of the railways.

Are you really trying to say car hire, for two people, is dearer
than that? Are you sane?

Can you get from Manchester to London return same day in a hire car
for less than £20?

Well? Can you?

No, but I didn't suggest that.

Can two people get from Manchester to London and back by train in a
day for less than the cost of hire car plus petrol?

So how much is that?

Well, for two people by train it's £350.

I'm not totally up on the cost of hire cars, but it's certainly well below
that. A quick websearch suggests that a Focus-size car could be hired for
around £30-35 a day during the week.

BTW yes I am snipping out your attempts to sidestep the point that
many people have moved on from believing there are no alternatives to
the ownership of a private car.
Seems you have a problem that some people make that choice. Most odd.

Obviously it's your right to make that choice, and I know several people who
do the same. Most people have moved on, and choose otherwise, though. Most
odd.

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http://www.speedlimit.org.uk
"If laws are to be respected, they must be worthy of respect."

JohnB ) wrote:

PeterE wrote:

A standard class return from Manchester to London is £175 now, you
know.

So what.

Exactly.

Soince no-one sensible would even think of paying that much - per person -
for such a journey, so what?

"Huge" wrote in message
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"AstraVanMan" writes:

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Talking of which, that gives me a strangely good idea on how to make a
few
extra quid - anyone know if parking meters can be privately run?

Unlikely. The State normally reserves extortion for itself.

Ummm - if you own the land, you can charge for parking on it (all other
rules and regs being complied with, such as planning permission).

So AFAICS, you can charge by installing your own parking meters. Sarfampt'n
council sold a lot off a couple of years ago.

In article , says...

The fare from my local station in Hampshire to London, 2 adults 4 children is
£51.50.
How can I get to Paris for less?

Easyjet.


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Conor

Hi. This is my friend, Jack ****, and you don't know him.

In article ,
says...


The _standard_ fare from _my_ local station in Chester to London starts at
90 pounds per adult.

Recent advert of some Midlands railway company made me laugh...reducing
fares to London from Warwickshire from £90 to £70 return PER DAY.
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Conor

Hi. This is my friend, Jack ****, and you don't know him.

In article ,
says...

But you don't have to shell out several thousand for a car, money for
road tax, some for insurance, and more for maintenance of the car.

You can buy a car with tax and MOT at an auction for £50. You can
insure said car for a day for a tenner.


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Conor

Hi. This is my friend, Jack ****, and you don't know him.