Evening all,

I want to visit a friend who lives near Hither Green (or thereabouts - not
totally sure what the closest railway station is yet) tomorrow evening.
I'll be going from work, which is (not quite) in the City. It strikes me
as a bit far to cycle, especially as i don't know the area. So, i want to
take the train from London Bridge, and take my bike with me, so i can
cycle from the station to her house, and then from London Bridge home
later on.

I understand that Southeastern don't take trains on London-leaving trains
before 1900, which is fair enough. Does anyone happen to know if my
understanding is correct?

Moreover, is it realistic for me to think i will be able to get on a train
with my bike soon after that? I have this terrible vision of the evening
peak being standing-room-only and not conducive to bikes for hours on end.

Thanks,
tom

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(Tom Anderson) wrote:

Evening all,

I want to visit a friend who lives near Hither Green (or
thereabouts - not totally sure what the closest railway station is
yet) tomorrow evening. I'll be going from work, which is (not
quite) in the City. It strikes me as a bit far to cycle, especially
as i don't know the area. So, i want to take the train from London
Bridge, and take my bike with me, so i can cycle from the station
to her house, and then from London Bridge home later on.

I understand that Southeastern don't take trains on London-leaving
trains before 1900, which is fair enough. Does anyone happen to
know if my understanding is correct?

Well, no. They wouldn't take trains on trains at any time. 16:00 to 19:00
seems to be the general bike curfew time on trains though.

Moreover, is it realistic for me to think i will be able to get on
a train with my bike soon after that? I have this terrible vision
of the evening peak being standing-room-only and not conducive to
bikes for hours on end.

I've managed to get my bike on trains after 19:00, even in the District
Line to East Putney when Chelsea are playing at home, not the best idea.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

I understand that Southeastern don't take trains on London-leaving trains
before 1900, which is fair enough. Does anyone happen to know if my
understanding is correct?





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Evening all,

I want to visit a friend who lives near Hither Green (or thereabouts

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Moreover, is it realistic for me to think i will be able to get on a train
with my bike soon after that? I have this terrible vision of the evening
peak being standing-room-only and not conducive to bikes for hours on end.

Thanks,
tom


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Just be prepared to put up with some hard looks!

I doubt anyone would be selfish enough to even attempt it.

Ian

On Wed, 13 May 2009 23:19:31 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

Evening all,

I want to visit a friend who lives near Hither Green (or thereabouts - not
totally sure what the closest railway station is yet) tomorrow evening.
I'll be going from work, which is (not quite) in the City. It strikes me
as a bit far to cycle, especially as i don't know the area. So, i want to
take the train from London Bridge, and take my bike with me, so i can
cycle from the station to her house, and then from London Bridge home
later on.

I understand that Southeastern don't take trains on London-leaving trains
before 1900, which is fair enough. Does anyone happen to know if my
understanding is correct?

Moreover, is it realistic for me to think i will be able to get on a train
with my bike soon after that? I have this terrible vision of the evening
peak being standing-room-only and not conducive to bikes for hours on end.

If joining the train at Charing Cross, get on near the front, the bike
won't be a problem. If getting on at London Bridge there will be more
room at the front, but not much! The exit at Hither Green Station is
right at the back of the train.

I live minutes from Hither Green. I can suggest two cycling routes,
one largely motor traffic free, and an express route.

The traffic free route will take up to an hour; the express route up
to 40 minutes.

1. From London Bridge pick up the Thames Cycle Route, generally well
signed as NCR4. Follow the route almost all the way to Greenwich. At
Deptford Creek, before crossing the River Ravensbourne, follow NCR21
to Lewisham. At Lewisham follow the cycle route through the Town
Centre to Lewisham Library, then Limes Grove, right College Park, left
Dermody Road, right Eastdown Park, ahead Leahurst Rod, arrive Hither
Green.

2. From London Bridge, follow the A200 [Tooley Street (bus/cycle
lanes), Jamaica Road (bus lanes), Lower Road (bus lanes), Evelyn
Street], then right Deptford Church Street (nasty junction, bus
lanes), ahead Brookmill Road, ahead Thurston Street, left Loampit
Vale, ahead Lewisham High Street (nasty roundabout, bus lane), left
Lee High Road, right Manor Park, right Staplehurst Road, arrive Hither
Green.

On 14 May, 08:05, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009 23:19:31 +0100, Tom Anderson





wrote:
Evening all,

I want to visit a friend who lives near Hither Green (or thereabouts - not
totally sure what the closest railway station is yet) tomorrow evening.
I'll be going from work, which is (not quite) in the City. It strikes me
as a bit far to cycle, especially as i don't know the area. So, i want to
take the train from London Bridge, and take my bike with me, so i can
cycle from the station to her house, and then from London Bridge home
later on.

I understand that Southeastern don't take trains on London-leaving trains
before 1900, which is fair enough. Does anyone happen to know if my
understanding is correct?

Moreover, is it realistic for me to think i will be able to get on a train
with my bike soon after that? I have this terrible vision of the evening
peak being standing-room-only and not conducive to bikes for hours on end.

If joining the train at Charing Cross, get on near the front, the bike
won't be a problem. *If getting on at London Bridge there will be more
room at the front, but not much! *The exit at Hither Green Station is
right at the back of the train.

I live minutes from Hither Green. *I can suggest two cycling routes,
one largely motor traffic free, and an express route.

The traffic free route will take up to an hour; the express route up
to 40 minutes.

1. *From London Bridge pick up the Thames Cycle Route, generally well
signed as NCR4. *Follow the route almost all the way to Greenwich. *At
Deptford Creek, before crossing the River Ravensbourne, follow NCR21
to Lewisham. *At Lewisham follow the cycle route through the Town
Centre to Lewisham Library, then Limes Grove, right College Park, left
Dermody Road, right Eastdown Park, ahead Leahurst Rod, arrive Hither
Green.

2. *From London Bridge, follow the A200 [Tooley Street (bus/cycle
lanes), Jamaica Road (bus lanes), Lower Road (bus lanes), Evelyn
Street], then right Deptford Church Street (nasty junction, bus
lanes), ahead Brookmill Road, ahead Thurston Street, left Loampit
Vale, ahead Lewisham High Street (nasty roundabout, bus lane), left
Lee High Road, right Manor Park, right Staplehurst Road, arrive Hither
Green.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Route 2 ain't so bad really. Even the apparently terrifying
roundabout at Rotherhithe is surprisingly easy. The only really
horrible bit is trying to turn right into Deptford Church Street,
where you can't get into the right lane. It might be avoided by using
Deptford High Street and Giffin Street (no market that time of day).

Also, once in Brookmill Road, you can pick up cycle routes through
Lewisham and continue with route 1.

On May 14, 4:40*am, MIG wrote:
On 14 May, 08:05, Tom Crispin
wrote:
2. *From London Bridge, follow the A200 [Tooley Street (bus/cycle
lanes), Jamaica Road (bus lanes), Lower Road (bus lanes), Evelyn
Street], then right Deptford Church Street (nasty junction, bus
lanes), ahead Brookmill Road, ahead Thurston Street, left Loampit
Vale, ahead Lewisham High Street (nasty roundabout, bus lane), left
Lee High Road, right Manor Park, right Staplehurst Road, arrive Hither
Green.
Route 2 ain't so bad really. *Even the apparently terrifying
roundabout at Rotherhithe is surprisingly easy. *The only really
horrible bit is trying to turn right into Deptford Church Street,
where you can't get into the right lane. *It might be avoided by using
Deptford High Street and Giffin Street (no market that time of day).

Ditto. I used to cycle something very like this route to work on a
regular basis. It's easy and mostly fairly flat. And I agree with the
diversion via the market -- that makes life easier.

(That said, I was cycling this route 1992-1994; things may have
changed a bit, though I don't think they've changed all that much.)

But with all that said, I'd be tempted to just leave the bike at
Hither Green (or Lewisham) station in the morning. Or just not cycle
that day.

On Thu, 14 May 2009, Alistair Bell wrote:

But with all that said, I'd be tempted to just leave the bike at Hither
Green (or Lewisham) station in the morning. Or just not cycle that day.

I don't understand this idea - which morning? Are you suggesting i should
have cycled there this morning (from Finsbury Park) before work, then got
the train from there to work today, and then back again this evening,
followed by riding back to Finsbury Park tonight? Or that i should stay
the night (which her husband might find sightly surprising), leave it
there tomorrow morning, and then go back for it by train some other time?

tom

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Nullius in verba

On Thu, 14 May 2009 18:00:02 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Thu, 14 May 2009, Alistair Bell wrote:

But with all that said, I'd be tempted to just leave the bike at Hither
Green (or Lewisham) station in the morning. Or just not cycle that day.

I don't understand this idea - which morning? Are you suggesting i should
have cycled there this morning (from Finsbury Park) before work, then got
the train from there to work today, and then back again this evening,
followed by riding back to Finsbury Park tonight? Or that i should stay
the night (which her husband might find sightly surprising), leave it
there tomorrow morning, and then go back for it by train some other time?

I've no idea what they were thinking.

It is interesting to note that soon there will be an almost motor
traffic free cycle route from Lewisham to Finsbury Park.