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TimB wrote:
It's happening! As Boris said: 'The shovels have tasted earth'.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8051185.stm


I see from the Crossrail site they are now referring to the station as
'Canary Wharf' and no longer 'Isle of Dogs'.

Is there any detail available yet about direct interchange between the DLR
and Crossrail here - it is the DLR station at West India Quay that is
immediately above, so could there yet be some renaming of existing stations?

Or will they stick with three totally separate Canary Wharf stations, and
have a pretty confusing set of 'outerchanges'?

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On 15 May, 19:38, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Is there any detail available yet about direct interchange between the DLR
and Crossrail here - it is the DLR station at West India Quay that is
immediately above, so could there yet be some renaming of existing stations?


Boris himself posted this picture which shows what's what:
http://twitpic.com/57hlg/full

Note that West India Quay and Canary Wharf DLR aren't even in the
photo. I think the walking route to both CW DLR and Jubilee Line
stations will be reasonably short (via the collonade of trees, bottom
right), but the only route that doesn't require crossing roads is to
West India Quay.

The random columns in that photo represent the ground floor of a new
as-yet-undesigned development, which will surely have indoor
connections to both Poplar DLR and the Crossrail station, and
potentially West India Quay, which of course would also mean an indoor
interchange route.

Finally, the man in the appallingly ill-fitting suit is apparently our
prime minister, though I can't find any planning documents that back
this up.

Or will they stick with three totally separate Canary Wharf stations, and
have a pretty confusing set of 'outerchanges'?


Very likely.

U
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On Fri, 15 May 2009, Mr Thant wrote:

On 15 May, 19:38, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Is there any detail available yet about direct interchange between the DLR
and Crossrail here - it is the DLR station at West India Quay that is
immediately above, so could there yet be some renaming of existing stations?


Boris himself posted this picture which shows what's what:
http://twitpic.com/57hlg/full


Wow. I didn't realise it was going to grow out of the water like that. How
is it connected to dry land on the side we can't see? Two little bridges
like on the side we can, or more? The bridges on this side don't seem like
a lot of capacity for such a major station.

Note that West India Quay and Canary Wharf DLR aren't even in the photo.
I think the walking route to both CW DLR and Jubilee Line stations will
be reasonably short (via the collonade of trees, bottom right), but the
only route that doesn't require crossing roads is to West India Quay.


Can it be a colonnade if it's trees? I'm sure there's a word for this -
i've looked it up and found 'allee', but that's not what i was thinking
of.

Finally, the man in the appallingly ill-fitting suit is apparently our
prime minister, though I can't find any planning documents that back
this up.


Ah, well now there's a detail that will almost certainly have been dropped
by 2016 ...

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"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
rth.li...
On Fri, 15 May 2009, Mr Thant wrote:

On 15 May, 19:38, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Is there any detail available yet about direct interchange between the
DLR
and Crossrail here - it is the DLR station at West India Quay that is
immediately above, so could there yet be some renaming of existing
stations?


Boris himself posted this picture which shows what's what:
http://twitpic.com/57hlg/full


Wow. I didn't realise it was going to grow out of the water like that. How
is it connected to dry land on the side we can't see? Two little bridges
like on the side we can, or more? The bridges on this side don't seem like
a lot of capacity for such a major station.

Note that West India Quay and Canary Wharf DLR aren't even in the photo.
I think the walking route to both CW DLR and Jubilee Line stations will
be reasonably short (via the collonade of trees, bottom right), but the
only route that doesn't require crossing roads is to West India Quay.


Can it be a colonnade if it's trees? I'm sure there's a word for this -
i've looked it up and found 'allee', but that's not what i was thinking
of.


Avenue?


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On Sat, 16 May 2009, DW downunder wrote:

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
rth.li...
On Fri, 15 May 2009, Mr Thant wrote:

Note that West India Quay and Canary Wharf DLR aren't even in the photo. I
think the walking route to both CW DLR and Jubilee Line stations will be
reasonably short (via the collonade of trees, bottom right), but the only
route that doesn't require crossing roads is to West India Quay.


Can it be a colonnade if it's trees? I'm sure there's a word for this -
i've looked it up and found 'allee', but that's not what i was thinking of.


Avenue?


It is, isn't it? That word had drifted through my mind, but for some
reason i ignored it. Avenue!

tom

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Tom Anderson wrote:

Can it be a colonnade if it's trees? I'm sure there's a word for this -
i've looked it up and found 'allee', but that's not what i was thinking
of.



Avenue.

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On 16 May, 02:04, Tom Anderson wrote:
Wow. I didn't realise it was going to grow out of the water like that. How
is it connected to dry land on the side we can't see? Two little bridges
like on the side we can, or more? The bridges on this side don't seem like
a lot of capacity for such a major station.


I've had a dig through the planning documents. The arrangements a

North side, west end:
- Lifting pedestrian bridge (upper level) - in white in the photo
- Lifting pedestrian bridge (ground level) - in brown in the photo

(why yes sir, a double decker draw bridge)

North side, east end:
- Lifting road bridge (upper level)

South side, west end (the main entrance):
- Fixed pedestrian ramp leading all the way to North Colonnade (upper
level)
- Fixed pedestrian bridge (ground level)

South side, middle:
- Fixed pedestrian bridge (ground level)

South side, east end:
- Fixed road bridge with pedestrian access (upper level)
- Very wide fixed pedestrian area above dock (ground level)

Diagram he
http://tinyurl.com/ojt5nc

Also, the whole roof lattice is made out of WOOD!

Can it be a colonnade if it's trees? I'm sure there's a word for this -
i've looked it up and found 'allee', but that's not what i was thinking
of.


The roads either side of Canada Square and Canary Wharf DLR are called
North and South Colonnade, despite having no discernible colonnisity
that I've noticed. I've decided everything gets to be a colonnade
around here.

U
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03:06:34 on Sat, 16 May 2009, Mr Thant
remarked:
Wow. I didn't realise it was going to grow out of the water like that. How
is it connected to dry land on the side we can't see? Two little bridges
like on the side we can, or more? The bridges on this side don't seem like
a lot of capacity for such a major station.


Diagram he
http://tinyurl.com/ojt5nc


And the railway lines - deep underground I suppose (below the docks).
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On 16 May, 11:52, Roland Perry wrote:
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And the railway lines - deep underground I suppose (below the docks).


Yes:
http://tinyurl.com/q8spkt

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Mr Thant wrote:

Boris himself posted this picture which shows what's what:
http://twitpic.com/57hlg/full

the man in the appallingly ill-fitting suit is apparently our
prime minister.


Here he is in his spare time...
http://www.british-emporium.com/orig...bies5x7web.jpg




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